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Why Motorcyclists should wear "leathers"

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Why Motorcyclists should wear "leathers"

Certainly this little video shows a very good reason to wear leathers when motor biking... ! 

Even in Greece ! !  on a hot day  ! ! ..

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6285353/Painful-moment-pillion-passenger-bikini-gets-multip...

 

As the headline says..... "OUCH!" 

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Re: Why Motorcyclists should wear "leathers"

Didn't Barry Sheen say something along the lines of -  broken bones can be fixed but when half your "behind" is sandpapered off it doesn't grow back.

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I am a motorcyclist but don't wear leathers other than gloves and boots.  However I wear textiles that are classified as PPE for motorcycling,with armour, and have a certification to that. Nobody wants to get road rash.There are a lot of reasons that I don't wear leathers:

 

Leathers that do the job are really expensive cost well over £1000 the last time I looked and closer to £2000

Leather is very hot in hot weather and very cold in cold weather.

Leather soaks up the rain and even on a moderate day can make you really cold.

 

Textiles are much cooler in hot conditions and warmer in cold conditions, multi removable layered, (insulation, rain membrane, etc.).  They are considerably cheaper from a few hundred GBP for a complete set.  However a good set of leathers of the correct thickness, stitchings, etc provides you with more seconds of protection over most textiles. However the inferior leathers are worse than my textiles.  Even in textiles with all the layers removed so just the protective exterior layer, armour and open vents to allow circulation it can get very hot on a warm day however  I am never on the bike without my gear on.

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Re: Why Motorcyclists should wear "leathers"

@Total_Chaos  Some interesting points there... I often thoght how hot it must be for bikers in all that leather gear.... not thought much about the opposite extreme... always thought that leathers were supposed to be water proof....

Maybe I should restyle the post as   " Why motorcyclists should drive cars "  ! ! ! ..

mind you, with undertaking like in the video, it would probably have ended up much worse .!

 

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Re: Why Motorcyclists should wear "leathers"

Most of us do both ride and drive. (In the USA they also say drive motorbikes rather than ride that appears incongruous as they also say ride what we call push bikes.  And in the USA a Cycle Shop is a motorbike shop/dealer.) 

 

It can get bitterly cold in winter on a motorbike, plus snow, ice, heavy rain and slippery roads which is why many stop between November and March.  There is heated clothing but it's not cheap and you have to be careful not to run the battery down.  I tend to ride all year round depending on the weather and road conditions, but my bike is one of my leisure activities rather than my main means of transport.  When I was a teenager the motorbike and my push bike were my main means of transport so we road in all conditions including snow and ice and we did not have much in the way of specialist warm or protective clothing.  Things have really come on over the years. 

 

Those that have never ridden a motorcycle don't understand why we would want to ride, or how a motorcycle works with regards to the amount of room required or that the bike has to lean to get around corners.  That is why there can be some interesting and sometimes dangerous interactions between the vehicles.  However we riders do things that many car drivers don't expect so we need to make our intentions obvious.  If two cars have a meeting then usually it just some bodywork damage but with a rider it's highly likely death so we need to be awake and observant of what is happening all the time. (I mentioned car drivers as most interactions are between bikes and cars with very few with lorries.)  This is why most riders are really anti mobile phone use in a vehicle because it removes the drivers concentration and observations and put theirs, cyclist and pedestrians lives at risk.  However I must admit that I have had to take avoidance action more times in the car than on the bike from another vehicles driver using a mobile phone and being on autopilot whilst doing it.

 

Sorry I digressed a bit there.

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Thanks for the insight on motorbiking life !..

I used to ride a Lambretta Scooter,... although I was not a MOD, as I was working FOR the M.O.D. and the only way to get in for the night watches ( and back home early morning ) , was independent transport.  This was before I got my car driving licence... so I guess you could say I got some valuable experience of roadcraft, whilst using the Scooter to and from .

The biggest problem I see with bikers, is that they tend to "hog the middle of the road"... either the middle of the single carriageway, so no one can get past them... or riding as close the the centre line as possible, which, apart from being inconsiderate to following traffic, is also a very dangerous place for them to be in respect of oncoming traffic, especially on those lovely country roads, that the bikers like on Sundays and High Days, to rid as if they were taking part in the I.o.M TT races...  ( utilising the "lean over as far as I dare tactic" on the bends).! ! ! .

As for Mobile Phone usage.... 100% agree with you on that point... totally irresponsible, and drivers should have their car taken off them, in the same way as if they had no Tax, MOT, or Insurance.  Unfortunately, there doesn`t seem to be sufficient traffic police to be able to crack down long enough to get this message across.

Come to think of it... would using a mobile, while driving,  be considered as "invalidating" the insurance  ? 

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Re: Why Motorcyclists should wear "leathers"

I ride motorbikes and in summer wear textile jacket with elbow, shoulder and back armour, also Kevlar jeans and leather boots. This is much cooler than leather and also the textile jacket is waterproof - leather is so sweaty and not waterproof. Modern textiles like Kevlar are easily equal to leather in abrasion and cut resistance and much cooler ( and much cheaper ). Kangaroo leather is thinner and stronger than cowhide, but horrendously expensive - I have some composite gloves with textile and kangaroo leather ( thinner and more flexible ) with built in knuckle dusters ( well that is what they look like). 

 

As for the earlier comment about motorbike riders 'hogging the centre of the road' that is the best place to be for good visibility - a rider should position his bike where he would be sitting if he was driving a four wheel vehicle.

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I know Kevlar is really good though I haven't any kevlar gear myself. Must look into that though there are different qualities of Kevlar gear. 

 

I think you are talking about knuckle protectors on your gloves.  I was always told that it was to protect your hands from flying stones, etc though less likely if you have a fairing.  The probably give a level of protection if you have an off but that will depend on how you land. My hands sweat in my Autumn/Winter gloves and make it difficult to take off and put on again.  Over time this leads to the fingers inner pulling away from the outer.  I use silk gloves as inners that not only prevent that but provide an extra layer of insulation

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Re: Why Motorcyclists should wear "leathers"


@wotsup wrote:

 

 

As for the earlier comment about motorbike riders 'hogging the centre of the road' that is the best place to be for good visibility -


To a point, I agree, However, most of the riders that I have come across, seem to think that double white lines are "Motorbike lanes"... and disregard oncoming traffic in consequence, expecting vehicles to move over to give them "right of passage"...

 

however, on the second part....

 

a rider should position his bike where he would be sitting if he was driving a four wheel vehicle.

 

then they should pay the same road tax as a 4 wheel vehicle, ....  as they are taking uptwice as much  space than is necessary

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Re: Why Motorcyclists should wear "leathers"

BMW drivers also expect people to move out of their way.  Cars are taxed on the pollution they emit and motorbikes are not as polluting as cars.