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Volcano - Food chain and health issues (if any)

WildRose52
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Volcano - Food chain and health issues (if any)



I realise that other members have been kind enough to post 2 threads
about the Icelandic volcano, and these cover issues like the travel
situation, teachers (which could cover other professions to) and
someone has even mentioned holiday insurance.
All this in addition to keeping us up to date about the status of the
volcano etc.
However, 2 topics not yet covered are these :
1. What if any are the health risks?
2. Could the no-fly situation affect our food chain?
So I thought I would start this thread, and then hopefully between
the 3 threads we`ll have every aspect of this situation covered.
In the meantime, I would bring the latest DM headline to attention.
Volcano: 1m Britons stranded and food shortages to come as jets grounded till at least 1am Sunday
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1266568/Volcanic-ash-cloud-100-000-Britons-stranded-Europe-
air-traffic-chiefs-extend-lockdown-7am.html
Whether we take this seriously or not is a matter of individual opinion.
As far as I`m concerned, all I can offer here is to say:  we do get alot of our food from abroad, and therefore
it figures :  no food can be imported or exported by air at the moment.
However there are other forms of transport available, albeit that they are slower, and might not be suitable
for items that wont stand up to the longer journeys.
As for health risks:  there seems to be many conflicting advices.
I personally have not seen any ash in my area, but then they did say: would only see it if you look carefully
for it, and I havent done that.
I dont suffer from any breathing problems personally, and I hope it will not affect others, whilst we do know
that more & more ppl appear to suffer from asthma nowadays.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/feedarticle/9034123 for an alarmist view
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GENEVA (AP) — The World Health Organization says Europeans should try to stay indoors if ash from Iceland's volcano starts raining down from the sky.
WHO spokesman David Epstein says the agency doesn't know the exact health risks from the ash cloud.
But he says the microscopic ash is potentially dangerous for people if it starts to "settle" on the earth because inhaled particles can reach the lungs and cause respiratory problems. There is a heightened danger for those suffering from asthma and respiratory diseases.
Epstein said the cloud mostly remained high in the atmosphere on Friday but the U.N. health agency was monitoring the situation closely. Some ash blanketed the ground in parts of rural southern Iceland.

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/04/16/europe.volcano.health/ for a more realistic and balanced view
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London, England (CNN) -- The ash from the volcanic eruption in Iceland this week is paralyzing air travel because it is too dangerous for aircraft to fly through it. Those on the ground may be concerned about health effects when the ash falls to Earth, but experts say there is little to worry about.
Britain's Health Protection Agency said the concentration of ash particles that may reach the ground "is likely to be low and should not cause serious harm."

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There was a layer of 'fine dust' on my car this morning (left out over night), along with a load a bird droppings - teach me to be lazy.
NHS officials have said: "It is important to stress that the concentration of particles which does reach ground level is likely to be low and should not cause serious harm.
"If people are outside and notice symptoms such as itchy or irritated eyes, runny nose, sore throat or dry cough, or if they notice a dusty haze in the air or can smell sulphur, rotten eggs, or a strong acidic smell, they may wish to limit their activities outdoors or return indoors."

Think I'd still like to see a "fluorine analysis" of the ash
WildRose52
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I think we must assume in view of Journeys` findings that they are telling
us the truth about the possibility of dust then.
Oft time, its the best way of getting the truth when others tell us these things.
As we know we`ve heard that much scaremongering in the past regards
various things that it is enough to make any of us skeptical.
However, and much like in the story of the boy who cried wolf, there can be
a real emergency.  Unfortunately and after hearing so many scare tactics it
does now tend to lead to more & more of the population closing their ears
(I know because I do experience that, but I get my own moments when I
find it hard to believe what others tell me)   
pierre_pierre
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planes are flying from the Cornwall airports to Jersey for the crops, as they fly at a veery low level.
But most green beens are flown over from Kenya, and as is a lot of other fresh food, I suppose that will soon disapear.
The Weather forcast maps dont look good for the next four days
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Jetstream forecast (30-40,000 ft)
http://www.metcheck.com/V40/UK/FREE/jetstream.asp
Still show winds from North West through til next Thursday, by Fri/Sat winds getting back to Normal (South West)
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@journeys. linky no working.
edit. seems metcheck is under high demand
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Metcheck is often very flaky - worked just now
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Quote from: journeys
if they notice a dusty haze in the air or can smell sulphur, rotten eggs, or a strong acidic smell, they may wish to limit their activities outdoors or return indoors."


This explains a strong sulphur smell which my wife and I experienced during a short car journey yesterday (we are in South yorkshire)
spooky!
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Happened to me, down here in Hampshire.......... so I opened the windows..... and it cleared......  Embarrassed
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LOL Smiley
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I just thought I'd post here to confirm everyone's prejudices about me and the lack of an "ignore" function.
I saw the thread title  Roll eyes then realised who started it  Lips are sealed and thought why bother?  Undecided
So I've just added this post without actually reading any of the preceding chain.  Grin
WildRose52
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This incident with the volcano will teach people about the power of nature,
and also how we have gone so badly wrong in shifting away from dependency
on local produce by allowing the big supermarket and food producers combined
with Big Money and corrupt politicians to destroy local food production.
Farmers have come under attack for a long time (I wonder why)

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not allowed to respond to this see the "sticky" at the top of the board.  Lips are sealed