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The illustrious Daily Mail...

.. has this morning stated on it's paper copy front page that...

"MPs overwhelmingly backed Brexit last night with a historic vote in the Commons. By a margin of 461 to 89 they supported a motion to start the process of leaving the EU by the end of March".

Now, I don't know about you, but to me that reads that it's all done and dusted, and the Express is saying similar.

For the record, what actually happened was that Theresa May won the overwhelming backing of MPs for her timetable to start Brexit talks in March 2017, but only after first agreeing to publish a plan setting out her objectives and promising MPs a vote on the final “divorce deal”.

Labour agreed to back the prime minister’s timetable for Brexit but insisted Mrs May should first publish a detailed negotiating strategy. Some pro-EU Conservative MPs said a white paper, a thorough policy document, should be produced in the new year.

This is a slightly different proposition from the Daily Mail's take. Mrs Maybe has always been reluctant to publish the details of what she proposes, which means that if she persists to the dissatisfaction of the majority of MPs, then the vote will go against the triggering of Article 50. 
So, DM, you can try to fool some of the people all of the time, but some of us actually know what the score is!
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Re: The illustrious Daily Mail...

Did Your MP vote against the Brexit Vote ??  well  89 DID !!


Ken Clarke (Rushcliffe) 



Rushanara Ali (Bethnal Green and Bow) 

Graham Allen (Nottingham North) 

Ben Bradshaw (Exeter) 

Ann Coffey (Stockport) 

Neil Coyle (Bermondsey and Old Southwark) 

Stella Creasy (Walthamstow) 

Geraint Davies (Swansea West) 

Jim Dowd (Lewisham West and Penge) 

Louise Ellman (Liverpool Riverside) 

Chris Evans (Islwyn) 

Paul Farrelly (Newcastle-under-Lyme) 

Mike Gapes (Ilford South) 

Helen Hayes (Dulwich and West Norwood) 

Meg Hillier (Hackney South and Shoreditch) 

Peter Kyle (Hove) 

David Lammy (Tottenham) 

Chris Leslie (Nottingham East) 

Ian Murray (Edinburgh South) 

Barry Sheerman (Huddersfield) 

Tulip Siddiq (Hampstead and Kilburn) 

Angela Smith (Penistone and Stocksbridge) 

Catherine West (Hornsey and Wood Green) 

Daniel Zeichner (Cambridge) 



Alistair Carmichael (Orkney and Shetland) 

Nick Clegg (Sheffield Hallam) 

Tim Farron (Westmorland and Lonsdale) 

Sarah Olney (Richmond Park) 

Mark Williams (Ceredigion) 



Caroline Lucas (Brighton Pavilion) 



Mark Durkam (Foyle) 

Alasdair McDonnell (Belfast South) 

Margaret Ritchie (South Down) 



Natalie McGarry (Glasgow East) 

Michelle Thomson (Edinburgh West) 



Jonathan Edwards (Carmarthen East and Dinefwr) 

Liz Saville Roberts (Dwyfor Meirionnydd) 

Hywel Williams (Arfon) 


SNP: 51

Tasmina Ahmed-Sheikh (Ochil and South Perthshire) 

Hannah Bardell (Livingston) 

Mhairi Black (Paisley and Renfrewshire South) 

Ian Blackford (Ross, Skye and Lochaber) 

Kirsty Blackman (Aberdeen North) 

Philip Boswell (Coatbridge, Chryston and Bellshill) 

Deidre Brock (Edinburgh North and Leith) 

Alan Brown (Kilmarnock and Loudoun) 

Lisa Cameron (East Kilbridge, Strathaven and Lesmahagow) 

Douglas Chapman (Dunfermline and West Fife) 

Joanna Cherry (Edinburgh South West) 

Ronnie Cowan (Inverclyde) 

Angela Crawley (Lanark and Hamilton East) 

Martyn Day (Linlithgow and East Falkirk) 

Martin Docherty-Hughes (West Dunbartonshire) 

Stuart Blair Donaldson (West Aberdeenshire and Kincardine) 

Marion Fellows (Motherwell and Wishaw) 

Margaret Ferrier (Rutherglen and Hamilton West) 

Stephen Gethins (North East Fife) 

Patricia Gibson (North Ayrshire and Arran) 

Patrick Grady (Glasgow North) 

Peter Grant (Glenrothes) 

Neil Gray (Airdrie and Shotts) 

Drew Hendry (Inverness, Nairn, Badenoch and Strathspey) 

Stewart Hosie (Dundee East) 

George Kerevan (East Lothian) 

Calum Kerr (Berwickshire, Roxburgh and Selkirk) 

Chris Law (Dundee West) 

Angus Brendan MacNeil (Na h-Eileanan an Iar)

John McNally (Falkirk) 

Callum McCaig (Aberdeen South) 

Stuart McDonald (Cumbernauld, Kilsyth and Kirkintilloch East) 

Anne McLaughlin (Glasgow North East) 

Carol Monaghan (Glasgow North West) 

Paul Monaghan (Caithness, Sutherland and Easter Ross) 

Roger Mullin (Kirkcaldy and Cowdenbeath) 

Gavin Newlands (Paisley and Renfrewshire North) 

John Nicolson (East Dunbartonshire) 

Brendan O'Hara (Argyll and Bute) 

Kirsten Oswald (East Renfrewshire) 

Steven Paterson (Stirling) 

Angus Robertson (Moray) 

Alex Salmond (Gordon) 

Tommy Sheppard (Edinburgh East) 

Chris Stephens (Glasgow South West) 

Alison Thewliss (Glasgow Central)  

Mike Weir (Angus) 

Eilidh Whitford (Banff and Buchan) 

Corri Wilson (Ayr, Carrick and Cumnock) 

Pete Wishart (Perth and North Perthshire) 

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That's a lot of SNP!

Yesterday's Supreme Court hearing apparently heard some "significant" arguments from both the SDLP and the SNP. There's a long way to go methinks!

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And by the same token the BBC ran with the report that "Brexit could not go ahead" lifting in isolation and out of context a part presentation to those judges.

Even the BBC twists the news...... and that's no defence of Express by the way. 

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Yes I noticed that as well. Those who are writing the copy for the BBC seem rarely to fully grasp what they are writing about. 

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Well @rongtw, I could just about forgive my own Plaid Cymru MP for siding with Labour in order to keep Carwyn Jones as first Minister here in Wales, but not over his opposition Brexit.

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And a number of Labour MP's voted against the bill despite a majority of those who voted for them supporting britexit.

Guess they will be in for a few negative comments when knocking on doors for support at the next general election.