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The Only Way Is Scrounging

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The Only Way Is Scrounging

Brentwood: Capital of sickie scrounging - 55% of claimants fit to work
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THE worst area for scroungers falsely claiming sickness benefits is Brentwood in Essex, new figures reveal.
Checks found that a staggering 55 per cent of people on Incapacity Benefit in the town were healthy enough to work.
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JamesM
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Huh
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View any and all claims regarding benefit fraud in the tabloid press with a great deal of scepticism.
There is a concerted campaign in the media (egged on by the government) to tar all benefit claimants (especially in the realm of benefits related to disability and ill-health) as 'scroungers', 'spongers', and the like.
The reality is that fraud in disability/ill-health benefits is the lowest in any part of the system (aboout 0.3%).
However, if you demonise those few who are actually gaming the system, it makes it easier to extend that condemnation to all claimants.
Once you've done that - dehumanise the 'enemy', as it were - it makes it easier for those with power to do things to that entire category of people without the outcry which would otherwise have resulted. It's a tactic which goes back to the oldest pogrom you can think of, and it's still used because it still works, alas.
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http://socialwarriors.co.uk/2012/03/british-people-are-committing-suicide-to-escape-poverty-is-this-...
Thsi is the state of this country we live in, whoever looks at what Sprite made attention to and believes it needs to stop living in cuckoo land..
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Brentwood: Capital of sickie scrounging - 55% of claimants fit to work
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THE worst area for scroungers falsely claiming sickness benefits is Brentwood in Essex, new figures reveal.
Checks found that a staggering 55 per cent of people on Incapacity Benefit in the town were healthy enough to work.



Perhaps there is a "clue" in the "wording" of the last sentence.
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were healthy enough to work.

They may well be "healthy enough"..... but that does not mean to say they were "FIT" enough to work...
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@JamesM - I read some of that website which is pretty rubbish Labour propaganda to be honest.  The one case they point out was Helen and Mark Mullins but the first link on Google points out that they deliberately avoided getting the help they needed (Helen was afraid she would be taken into care), it's a sad story indeed, but the benefits system can't help those who refuse to use it.  If Helen had gone to a doctor who signed her off sick or incapable of working their benefits would have gone from £50 something a week to £150 a week minimum (add on to that carers allowance and other allowances and it'd be over £200 a week) but they didn't seek the help.
There are true cases of people being refused sickness benefits when ill or being found fit to work, my mother for instance had a frozen shoulder, her doctor, specialist and surgeon told her she couldn't work, the benefits doctor said she could, she could have appealed (and would have won) but just got on with it, I myself got told by the benefits doctor I was fit to work, I did appeal and won my case in 10 seconds (less than 10 seconds, I just showed them the letter the benefits agency sent me which meant I got 1 point which took me to the points needed).
The people who run the medicals need to be looked at though, with a 2/3rd fail rate at appeals kind of shows something is wrong with the system.
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Perhaps there is a "clue" in the "wording" of the last sentence.
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were healthy enough to work.

They may well be "healthy enough"..... but that does not mean to say they were "FIT" enough to work...

Very good point that is.
I often think that the government (which ever party is in) is on some sort of crusade against those who are misfortunate to have ill health. It seems to me that society likes to pick on the most vulnerable for some sick reason.
My original reason for this topic BTW was to try and show that Brentwood (Towie land) and the people in it aren't as wonderful as everyone is led to believe.
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The Only Way Is Excuses ?
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A friend sent me this is in an email -
This morning I went to sign my dogs up for Social benefits. At first the lady said, "Dogs are not eligible for benefits." So I explained to her that my dogs are mixed in colour, unemployed, lazy, can't speak English and have no frigging clue who their Daddies  are. They expect me to feed them, provide them with housing and medical care. So she looked in her policy book to see what it takes to qualify.
My dogs get their first cheques on Friday.

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My original reason for this topic BTW was to try and show that Brentwood (Towie land) and the people in it aren't as wonderful as everyone is led to believe.

Who are these people that think it's wonderful? It must be only the ones that live in Essex and London barrow boys.
JamesM
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I have never watched the show so I can't comment on who thinks they are wonderful.
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does any one know the source of the Suns article?, they did mention it on the BBC Essex yesterday, but Google  could find any reference, except that Brentwood Council has been chasing the scroungers since 2004
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The Only Way Is Excuses ?

Lol, clever!
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A friend sent me this is in an email -
This morning I went to sign my dogs up for Social benefits. At first the lady said, "Dogs are not eligible for benefits." So I explained to her that my dogs are mixed in colour, unemployed, lazy, can't speak English and have no frigging clue who their Daddies  are. They expect me to feed them, provide them with housing and medical care. So she looked in her policy book to see what it takes to qualify.
My dogs get their first cheques on Friday.

This is a great country!


Very funny lol
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does any one know the source of the Suns article?, they did mention it on the BBC Essex yesterday, but Google  could find any reference, except that Brentwood Council has been chasing the scroungers since 2004

No idea but I've often found google news isn't good at picking up on things. As for the information I would suspect someone probably did some detective work with all of the councils via the freedom of information act then ran the numbers to see which area came out worst. It could also be a FOI reply directly from JC+
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