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The Doctor will see you now

gleneagles
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The Doctor will see you now

Rather interesting program on recently regarding Doctors and AI.

Thousands of patients in London ( and perhaps elsewhere) have signed up to online Doctors.

You fill in a questionaire regarding your signs and symptoms and you can be talking to a online Doctor within 10 minutes.

Clearly there are situations where you need to be examined by a Doctor but this can be arranged within a couple of days at one of the firms clinics.

The AI questionaire links words to your answers to a specific part of your body and the focus on follow up questions concentrates on that.

One study clearly demonstrated that in Breast screening the speed and accuracy of detecting problems was far faster and more accurate that if done by Doctors, obtaining the results quickly meant treatment could start sooner.

Bearing in mind the current shortage of GP's and the old fashioned systems currently in place in the NHS, is this the way forward

Personally I see it as a game changer, It will mean being seen sooner and will save both time and money.

What do you think ?

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Re: The Doctor will see you now

Assuming I had a choice then I'd go for the Doctor every time so I literally got a hands on examination. Not all appointments requires such an examination but all the same it would be a Doctor for me.

Jonpe
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How about computers in the waiting room so that patients can complete a questionnaire during the hour or so they have to wait beyond their appointment time?  This might speed up the time taken by the doctor, since many of the questions the doctor would want to ask have already been answered.

artmo
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I also saw the program. It was very interesting. Whilst it may work for straightforward conditions I have my doubts about more complex ones.

I recently went to see my GP and whilst examining me he discovered a problem totally unconnected with the reason that I was consulting him about. AI would not have discovered this.

Also what wasn't mentioned in the program was the cost of the consultation. Do you still get NHS prescriptions or private ones that have to be paid for?

With some of the computer based systems you also have to de-register from your local GP and register with the computer service. This means you will not be able to consult your local GP if you have a problem.

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Well, I am amazed at our surgery.   when we joined it about 5 years ago, it was the smallest surgery in the area, ( could chooose any one of 3 or 4 as catchment area )... ours had just over 7,000 patents on its register.   we never really had any problem phoning up in the morning, and getting a same day appointment.... then a couple of years ago, it started to "go wrong"... just after an "amalgamation" of three of the four other surgeries.  which we put down to teething troubles with the different workbase and scheduling docs, nurses, and HCA` s .. Appointments could be a couple of weeks ahead... even if you told them you thought it was more urgent !>.. A new website was made up, and you can now order a prescription refill on line... you can book an appointment on line... and you can use the "eDoc" facility as well as a whole host of other things you can do... It`s BRILLIANT..

they even send a text message to remind you of your appointments, even if it`s the same day.  !.

I had chest pain, last week, and the missus phoned up for me...  ( cos I can`t use the phone with my deaf aids).. and I got an appointment that morning 2 hours later.... The HCA did a ECG 10 mins before I was due to see the doc, and also my blood pressure...  turned out to be muscle straing on the rib cage... but was told by the doc that we had done the right thing, to call them for a check up...  Was in and out within 20 mins... BRILL...

I think the reason the service has improved so much recently, is due to the larger number of Health Staff, that the group can call on, with a wider "knowledge/specialist" base, and also improved computer systems.

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Only recently did I get round to watching, but having no particular bias against AI, felt unsure about its use for positive and definite diagnoses. It seemed rather "this is what's wrong" STOP! Too cut and dried! I also want a human who can cope with my ramblings, when I suddenly refer back a couple of minutes with a btw, just remembered.

I didn't take to Dr Ali Pasha; I thought of a Persian magic carpet salesman. And although minister, Matt Hancock has every right to favour more use of technology, and the practitioners he wishes, I did feel a little uneasy.

No one has to agree with my opinion, but in the time I have left a miracle would be nice.
gleneagles
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But what we are forgetting is that Doctors make mistakes ! How many Doctors can honestly say they are fully up to date with medical problems and treatments, Yes I know they have to take refresher courses every few years but even then we cannot assume every one of them will be up to date whereas a computer system can be constantly upgraded.

Consider for instance the number of years it took for certain drugs to be identified that were causing harm, a computer system would have picked this up in a much shorter time period.

This is the way forward, this is the future, the lack and cost of Doctors will ensure that.

We are born into history and history is born into us.