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Strange order...

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Strange order...

Watching a poor "B" stop some crank blowing up the Earth for cash type movie, Some of the "action" takes place on/in a submarine. An order is given "all head flank" Would one of you naval types out there care to explain this? To my uninitiated way of thinking, "ahead" means forward, "flank" means one of the sides.
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Never been on a sub, let alone a U.S. sub..... it seems to be an american navy term.... (certainly isn`t used in the R.N.)
so , you will have to "ask a Yank....... to explain Flank"....  Cheesy
Don`t forget..... the yanks have weird names for part of cars (automobiles)    Hood...... bonnet    ... ... ... ... ..
Trunk.... boot.........
Fender ..... wing
Etc.>!>!
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"all head flank" is the top speed of the boat, and yes a submarine is a boat.
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Well yes it was a US sub I think. You were my best hope shutter for this.
At face value, it just seems to me an impossible manoeuvre to go forwards and sideways at the same time.
But then as you say the Yanks use some strange language at times.
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Ok thanks Gary, in what way does "flank" refer to speed?
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As shutter said it is just one of them weird ways that the Americans say things.  We say top speed and the Americans say all head flank, well that is the nutty Americans for you.
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I've also heard American films talk about flank speed.  Don't know the etymology.
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Yay!.... the R.N. equivalent of " Full Ahead Both".... (assuming two props were in use !)..... Or just "Full Ahead".....
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Ah! thanks guy's.
To be added to my fund of useless information...
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FWIW
Historically faster than full speed (the most a vessel can sustain without excessive engine wear or risk of damage), now frequently used interchangeably. Typically used in an emergency or during an attack (All ahead flank!). Implies both flanks (sides) of the boat are moving at the same speed, so the boat is moving in a straight line (zero rudder), where as 'full speed'  may imply some degree of rudder.
Thought I remembered the order being given in the movie The battle of the river Plate by Anthony Quayle as Cdre. Harwood on HMS Ajax. ............................Hopefully somebody has a better memory
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have seen the Battle of the River Plate, several times,..... must have missed that...!  Undecided
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Funnily enough, by dredging the memory banks somewhat, I suspect Cpt James T Kirk of the starship Enterprise may have ordered "flank speed" at times...
Any dedicated Trekkies to confirm?
Maybe an order, but not as we know it.
Petlew stands by for reams of Star Trek puns...
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Battle of the River Plate..... must have missed that...! 

If there's nothing else on the box this evening, I know which of my DVD's will be on. will confirm tomorrow.
Unusually, I felt Anthony Quayle over-acted his part to the point of hamming it up completely. Shame, as the rest were excellent.
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