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14-09-2014 10:05 AM
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I was never an Amy Winehouse fan, and to me represented all that is bad in the entertainment business (drug misuse and alcoholism)
Leaving my own personal opinions aside, isn't this likely to open a can of worms with fan-clubs of one hit wonders (Amy Whitehouse wasn't a one-hit wonder) trying to find space for a statue of their favourite "stars"
We have already a statue of the Beatles, but they were perhaps a special case, but there could be statues of (Oh no!!) Cheryl Cole or One Direction.
Edit: name corrected
When faced with two choices, simply toss a coin. It works not because it settles the question for you. But because in that brief moment while the coin is in the air. You suddenly know what you are hoping for.
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14-09-2014 10:19 AM
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14-09-2014 10:50 AM
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Not much different from...... Bomber Harris
Eric Morecambe
Engleburt Humperdink...
and many other "famous" people.... Even Lord Nelson has statues all over the place.... If you delve into his past, he was no saint... and he was in charge of some serious abuse on ships in the Royal Navy....
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14-09-2014 11:10 AM
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How about Tony Blair? the thought of a statue of him near Downing Street being liberally covered in pigeon poo does have an appeal.
When faced with two choices, simply toss a coin. It works not because it settles the question for you. But because in that brief moment while the coin is in the air. You suddenly know what you are hoping for.
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14-09-2014 11:46 AM
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14-09-2014 11:47 AM
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How many Amy Whinehouse songs can you name without resorting to Google?
This all seems to go hand-in-hand with the outpouring of 'public grief' whenever anyone in the public eye dies.
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14-09-2014 2:06 PM
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14-09-2014 2:42 PM
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They can get planning etc for Amy Whitehouse, who was a prolific drug user etc
Yet
Lee Rigby (who fought for this country) was denied in his own home town to have a memorial
In May 21/2014
[quote= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-27500060]An MP and council have rejected calls for a memorial to Fusilier Lee Rigby in the south-east London area where he was murdered.
It just goes to show how bad this country really is
Makes me ashamed to be British

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14-09-2014 3:24 PM
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14-09-2014 3:26 PM
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His misfortune was to have been murdered, by a civilian (?) The local council and the M.P., probably took the decision, very seriously, to negate permission, on the grounds that, by having a memorial, could possibly inflame local opinion, and be the focus and cause of more unrest amongst the communities involved.
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14-09-2014 3:32 PM
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14-09-2014 4:31 PM
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[quote= ]This week a number of religious groups including the Islamic Society of Britain and the Conservative Muslim Forum wrote to the Daily Telegraph to express support for a memorial in Woolwich.
They said: "If the family's desire is to have a memorial, neither they, nor the British public as a whole, should be denied the chance to commemorate Lee Rigby's service and sacrifice in a proper way."
@Shutter & artmo
What I was saying is to compare a prolific drug using seedy world singer who can get a memorial statue (without a fight) & a Soldier who was denied a memorial.
is an absolute disgrace,
Whilst I appreciate that there are others past & present, aptly deserve memorials there are also those that don't deserve them
Ok both of you answer this then
Who is more deserving of a / the memorial ?

Lee Rigby (who fought life & limb for our country (in a war he should never have been sent to)) & Murdered on home soil by soldiers of another religious belief
or
Amy Whitehouse (A prolific drug user (had her own self inflicted battle with drugs)) & died from self inflicted drug abuse
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14-09-2014 4:36 PM
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14-09-2014 4:49 PM
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I have no objection to the people of that part of North London deciding to erect a statue to her. As I made clear earlier neither do I have an objection to a statue for Lee Rigby.
Two totally unconnected issues.
In the case of Lee Rigby there is the sensitive issue of the memorial being erected without causing further troubles in the area.
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14-09-2014 5:02 PM
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I never asked which if any you object to
I asked
which was more deserving
Someone who put their life on the line to protect our country
Or
A prolific drug using singer
Lets put it a different way
Who set the best example for other generations to follow
Lee Rigby
or
Amy Whitehouse
yes that is how I write / type it, as I feel disgusted to see her name, (for the bad examples she set out) although there are others as all she done was sing & not fight for a country
I know who I would rather watch my back if they were still alive & we end up in a 3rd world war
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