Some Obese People may now be classified as Disabled
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Some Obese People may now be classified as Disabled
Some Obese People may now be classified as Disabled
19-12-2014 2:17 AM
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If a person's weight hinders 'full and effective participation' at work then it can count as a disability, judges yesterday ruled
A disability, to me, usually means the disabled person has no control over being disabled, such as from birth, as the result of an accident, or severe illness, for example.
Important to the landmark ruling is the EU court's judgment that the origin of the disability is irrelevant – even if someone's obesity is caused by overeating.
I do find that the majority of people I see parking in a Disabled car parking spot, who do not posses a disabled parking badge, is indeed overweight !
Usually in a large SUV type vehicle, to carry their large frame.
Which makes me think, if they parked in a normal spot, and walked just that little bit further, they may not be as obese.
Can't walk, or won't walk, yet their Doctor does not consider them Disabled.
That really annoys me. However, in at least one local Supermarket, they do clamp down on such misuse
In Florida, in Walt Disney World, it is amazing just how many extremely obese Americans are riding around in mobility scooters, the American version.
It is annoying that, for example, the WDW Shuttle buses, which all appear to have hydraulic lowering entrances, which takes time, just to allow some over large person to drive their scooter onto the bus.
Of course, one doesn't mind when an actually disabled person joins the bus, you have probably already chatted to them whilst waiting for the Shuttle, and so understand their needs.
What does it mean in the UK, well probably if you are really obese, you will not be offered employment, or may be eased out before such a law is enacted over here.
I'm all for giving Disabled people every help they can get, I do appreciate their daily struggles, and having to also cope mentally with a Disability, and fully support them.
We do employ some Disabled people in our businesses, and listen to their specific needs and requests, and act on them.
Once in our employment, their skills are valued, and they will stay with us for years.
We do provide help in sorting out allowances, benefits and specific needs to aid them.
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19-12-2014 10:02 AM
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19-12-2014 10:17 AM
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Not having done the research I don't know but there may well be instances where severe overweight is a direct result of some other illness and not simply over-eating or poor diet.
However, that aside, qualifying for disability registration for not looking after one's self is in my opinion wrong.
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19-12-2014 10:27 AM
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More ammunition for those who argue for leaving the EU
I think this isn't a suitable subject for legislation

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19-12-2014 10:50 AM
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19-12-2014 1:49 PM
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We eventually dipped into our retirement savings to fully fund private medical bariatric surgery which removed most of her stomach and left something slightly smaller than the size of a tennis ball. Her weight is, after three years, down to 60 Kg from circa 150. She'll be affected for the rest of her life. She cannot eat many types of food, she cannot take some medicines, she doesn't have space for a cup of tea and a meal at the same time and now can only stomach portion sizes you'd give to a five year old.
Obesity is no joke for those who suffer it, and surgery is not necessarily an easy option.
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19-12-2014 8:39 PM
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Quote from: PlusComUK I'm all for giving Disabled people every help they can get, I do appreciate their daily struggles, and having to also cope mentally with a Disability, and fully support them.
Well given the recent legal implications it appears you don't if you have a problem with someone over eating.
Quote from: Strat To me it seems a bit like an insult to the 'genuinely disabled'.
Not having done the research I don't know but there may well be instances where severe overweight is a direct result of some other illness and not simply over-eating or poor diet.
However, that aside, qualifying for disability registration for not looking after one's self is in my opinion wrong.
So whats with the negativity there then? - Seems a bit wrong don't you think?
Quote from: AlaricAdair Our daughter was morbidly obese. She tried all the diets, slimming clubs, medically supervised diets without any real success. Her obesity had a physiological cause rather than any lack of will power.
Obesity is no joke for those who suffer it, and surgery is not necessarily an easy option.
I think AlaricAdair says it all really.
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21-12-2014 10:26 AM
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Quote from: 7up
Quote from: Strat To me it seems a bit like an insult to the 'genuinely disabled'.
Not having done the research I don't know but there may well be instances where severe overweight is a direct result of some other illness and not simply over-eating or poor diet.
However, that aside, qualifying for disability registration for not looking after one's self is in my opinion wrong.
So whats with the negativity there then? - Seems a bit wrong don't you think?
Not a bit wrong at all IMO.
It's an establishled fact, although the manufactures might deny it, that most soft drinks, including 7up, are loaded with excessive amounts of sugar, which is a proven direct cause of obesity and other health problems such as rotten teeth.
More often than not, if you actually see a severely obese person pushing a trolley round a supermarket or at the checkout, it's hard not to notice the amount of 2L bottles of soft drinks (aside from the other junk) they're buying.
If you're not obese yourself (or heading that way) then you must be either lucky or doing something right, such as not drinking excessive amounts of your namesake 7up.

If someone is obese through no fault of their own (the minority I suspect) then fair enough, but if you're obese through your own poor lifestyle choices then the saying "You've made your bed now lie in it." springs to mind.
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21-12-2014 10:47 AM
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Unfortunately some forums member here have questioned the BMI in the past as it does have limitations but the people that are placed in the Overweight/Obese because of the sports they do are not the ones that deride the BMI
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28-12-2014 11:25 PM
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29-12-2014 8:49 AM
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personally weight is a problem for me because of my disabilities rather than my disability being caused through excessive consumption.
since I'm relatively inactive through disability any weight gain I have is purely a coincidental effect.....
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29-12-2014 12:13 PM
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We often ate fish and chips, lots of potatoes, meat and 3 teaspoonfully of sugar in our tea. Plenty of fizzy drinks like tizer, etc
So the question has to be why ? What is the difference between then and now ?
To help answer that question there is a simple formula, if the amount of calories you take in exceeds the amount you use then you will put on weight.
The only exceptions to that rule is if your kidneys are unable to maintain a correct fluid balance in your body or you have cardiac problems or other problems but any such problems should easily be diagnosed by a consultant and where possible treated accordingly.
Gastric bands are no answer
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29-12-2014 3:37 PM
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