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Should the UK call a General Election after the US vote?

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Should the UK call a General Election after the US vote?

It grates on me that May, Brown et al, are / were not voted in to power as the result of an election, and now that Donald Trump has been democratically voted in as the next POTUS, is it not time the UK had a democratically elected Prime Minister?

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Why the h**l should we follow the U.S.?

Our systems are different.

Not having a go at you, Mook, but the slavish following of the US grates on me.

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Absolutely not.

The US votes for the person rather than the Party as this election clearly showed. TM was already in high office of a democratically elected government and she should be allowed to prove her worth - and from where I'm sitting she's doing a first class job. 

Brown was handed a poisoned chalice, May has been handed both opportunity and time.  

PS. As a lifelong Socialist but one who both admires and despairs at Corbyn, TM will get my vote if she is still in charge come the next election in 2020.

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Mook wrote:

It grates on me that May, Brown et al, are / were not voted in to power as the result of an election, and now that Donald Trump has been democratically voted in as the next POTUS, is it not time the UK had a democratically elected Prime Minister?


I think others have mentioned it before but we vote for a government not a Prime Minister, it is up to MP's of that party to elect a PM.

The only exception is the Labour party who let members decide that Corbyn should remain as leader despite most of his MP's wanting to get rid of him.

Unless things go badly wrong, the next election will be won by the conservatives and in that case TM will remain as leader with a increased majority......why do I say that ?.....well who else do you vote for ? The rest are just clueless.

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Twas I.... who said we vote for M.P`.s  ( party )... and then the leader of that party "usually" becomes prime minister ( which somewhere in my history way back in school, was a way of saying "first fool".. ).. .... therefore, we, indirectly, vote the leader of the party into the office of P.M.

 

No Thank you... I don`t want  to vote directly for a "person" to be in charge of the governing party...we may have some sleazebag voted in on similar grounds to the U.S. Elections,   where the people did not necessarily vote FOR Trump,... rather they voted AGAINST the opposition...

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@jab1@shutter - No, I'm not meaning that we have a specific vote for the PM, not at all, I simply mean (or meant to mean) that DT was democratically voted in, unlike our PM who simply took over.

@gleneagles I think we all know that the vast majority of people when they cast their vote in a General Election are really voting for the party leader they like the most at the time and not necessarily the local party member who actually gets the vote. This I think can be seen in the last vote for the Labour leadership, and the reason why I raised the question.

Do you all think that TM is a 'popular' a figure as DC was when he (they) won the General Election?

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I vote for the party and policies - I couldn't stand Cameron who was an Eton educated upper class knob

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I went to Public School Cry

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Public? Mine was Approved Wink

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Mook wrote:

@jab1@shutter - No, I'm not meaning that we have a specific vote for the PM, not at all, I simply mean (or meant to mean) that DT was democratically voted in, unlike our PM who simply took over.



Teresa May, was elected as an M.P... she "rose through the ranks" of the heirachy, and was (S)elected to replace the current PM who resigned.(by the other M.P.`s who were also voted into office). ... nothing wrong with that...  so why change it..  Your O.P, is suggesting that we should have had an election to replace Cameron, when he resigned... which would be the same thing as the U.S. system

 

However, it would have been a bit of a "naff" result if, when the election was finally counted... and Corbyn was elected P.M. in charge of a Conservative Majority Government...

 

 

 

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Must be said i pretty much agree with mook that we have an unelected leader ruling our country.

 

Yes the party may have been voted for... under David Camorons policies however Teresa Maybes policies are clearly different to his and nobody voted to put her or her policies into power.

 

@jab1 I don't think Mook is guilty of bringing this up to follow the americans, I think it's only natural that questions like this will be triggered by how that election has turned out and in fairness to Mook, it's a good question.

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@7up - I realise what Mook meant, and in relation  to his original post I have no real argument - it is the general 'Americanisation' of the UK I was (badly) hinting at.

I still say our and the American political systems are different, though, so we don't HAVE to follow them.

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Oldjim wrote:

I vote for the party and policies - I couldn't stand Cameron who was an Eton educated upper class knob


+1 on that.

@Mook

Not sure why people are critical of TM, yes she held posts in government and made decisions that many might not agree with including her wish to remain in the EU but.... Much depends on the post you are it, you may be forced by others to agree decisions which you are not happy about, sure you can make your feelings known (not always wise) or you can resign or just get on with it.

TM now holds the top job, still not easy with some in her own party holding grudges and hoping their chance will come but she deserves the chance to make a go of what must be one of the hardest periods in politics, she looks the part, talks in a positive way and so far I am impressed, so give her a chance......if she gets it wrong by all means come back and critisize but she deserves the chance.

One thing for certain, there are much better and more highly paid jobs with less stress than that of a PM who does the job correctly and for others benefit rather than their own.

Not a job many can do well when looking as some of the losers who have held that post, by losers I mean those who were incompedent, rather than losers of their own money but often losers of our money.

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I think TM taking over the premiership was a good result as we were being threatened what a long drawn out leadership election a the time. I don't agree with a General Election for the same reason. No she seems the best option and should be left to get on with it.

 

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