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Scottish Election update

idlewis
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Scottish Election update

The SNP has won overall majority in the Scottish Parliament which will mean a referendum on independence in the second half of the forthcoming parliament.
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The Labour Party will not be pleased. 
idlewis
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Since Donald Dewar died the Labour vote although winning comfortably their vote steadily went down but the main reason that nationalists won the election is that the former First Minister Jack McConnell said he will nearly all of the government budget will be on education which will mean no money for something else in 2007 manifesto so he let SNP in and as Tony Blair said "It will be difficult to shift Alex Salmond once his party wins an election.
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The Labour Party will not be pleased. 

Especially as the system was designed to avoid any party having an overall majority.
[quote=http://www.labourblogs.com/public-blog/alisdair-macpherson/29584/]Despite the existence of an electoral system designed explicitly by Labour to avoid the possibility of an SNP majority in the Scottish parliament, Alex Salmond will lead a contingent of more than half of the parliamentary chamber in the next session.
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Politicians who try to gerrymander the electoral process seem to forget that ultimately the voters have to cooperate by voting the way the politicians expect. I recall when the Tories, unhappy that they controlled no local councils in Scotland, "re-organised" local government in order to create two or three councils that they were "certain" to control. The voters didn't cooperate then either.
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I wonder if the Scottish electorate might consider the consequence of a successful vote for separation. They are struggling to pay for all the freebies availble now ie Healthcare for the elderly, reduced tuition fees etc., Salmond now wants law-giving powers and TAX-raising powers, the effect which will fall on the taxation of the public and industry. Also I am  sure that Westminster will look towards severe cuts or complete abolition of the bags of cash going north of the border. I do know that the Welsh Assembly are asking for renegotiation of the Barnett formula to give them a bigger share of the pot, they would welcome some of the Scot's share!!
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Will they not get the revenues from Oil?
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debts - RBS .... also come to mind.
idlewis
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The SNP said they are going to bring in a council tax freeze for the duration of the parliament i.e. five years then a local income tax instead of council tax,  a minimum unit price for Alcohol as they did not have the majority within the last parliament and there will be a referendum on independence in the next two or three years.

I will keep in touch with what is happening with the SNP in Government in Scotland.
idlewis
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In today's Scottish Sunday Herald it says that Westminister has agreed to a Independence Referendum.
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The Scottish National Party is to be returned to government in Scotland, after winning an outright majority in the Holyrood election.
That means the SNP will hold a referendum on independence within the next few years - but what are the main issues and obstacles facing the party?
Where are the origins of the independence movement in Scotland?
The campaign for Scottish home rule began in earnest almost as soon as the unification with England took place, in 1707.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-13318579
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debts - RBS .... also come to mind.

And don't forget HBOS, but who says the Westminster government will agree to give them back.?
If our First Minister is being honest for once, there won't be an independence referendum for another 2 or 3 years in the hope that by then he might get a majority in favour.  If, that happens, and it's a big if you're going to see another 2 or 3 years negotiating the terms and deciding who gets what, so the eventual separation is at least 5 years away.  If RBS and HBOS are in the black by then, or even close to it, with the consequent rise in their share prices do you honestly see any Westminster government agreeing to hand them over.?
I don't think so.


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Why are you referring to HBOS?  It is now owned by Lloyds TSB.
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First Iain Gray (Lab), then Tavish Scott (Lib Dem), now another one bites the dust.
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tinto
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Why are you referring to HBOS?  It is now owned by Lloyds TSB.

It may be owned by Lloyds TSB, but HMG had to underwrite its toxic debts before they'd take it on so they still have an financial interest