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Saving money

Our new political masters now say they will be consulting the masses to find out the areas that we can save money.
Personally I would fix the maximum pension at £50,000 a year and it would remain at that for the next 5 years. (including those currently drawing a pension) some people in full time work do not even earn half this figure when working.
I would stop paying all this money to the common market until they got their house in order.
What would your priorities be..............?
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SRD
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You can see one of my ideas in the legalising of drug abuse thread, another possibility would be to close all the prisons, they do virtually nothing to stop crime and the money could be far better spent either providing employment or education for those with anti-social or criminal tendencies.  Those who are unable to be redeemed can still be locked up but the numbers would be so much lower that we can afford to fund it.
Those nations with a narrower gap between rich and poor have far lower crime rates and far higher happiness rates so we need to reduce the income to the wealthy and improve the lot of the poor, one way would be to link the remuneration of businesses and government services so that the highest paid are only allowed to take home a certain percentage greater than the lowest paid.
Companies and individuals who do business or work here must pay tax here, if they pay any of their employees offshore then the equivalent amounts of tax must be taken from them at source.
The unemployed, disabled and criminal must be educated or trained for work by industry.  Industry must fund this themselves and must employ a percentage, related to the percentage of such to the population, of these people.  This would have the effect of encouraging industry to reduce the number of these people and create proper social responsibility of industry to the populace.
We must make the cost of transporting goods and people around the country, and the world, more realistic to the effects caused, so all commercial enterprises must contribute far more to the cost of roads/railways/flying.  This will encourage industry to relocate from pretty properties in the south to the centres of population further north, providing not only a better service and employment where it's needed but also will reduce the justification of government for pouring vast amounts of subsidy into the already wealthy south of the nation.
All new development of 'executive' style housing must cease.  This is a vastly inefficient way to provide housing (and, incidentally,  only provides vast profits which are rapidly squirrelled away offshore), especially when there are already more properties for sale in the nation than properties required (but not in the right place, but see the previous point).
That'll do for now.
Teds31
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Could pick a few holes in that SRD, but it may be tounge in cheek. Its a load of rubbish any way on the goverments part because if they asked us all we would all want some thing differant.
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Abolish the winter fuel allowance, government instead pay direct to the energy companies who then discount to the elderly accordingly, to ensure the winter fuel allowance gets spent on heating. (Saving on Admin costs)
Abolish Road fund licence Tax and increase tax on fuel. (Saving on admin costs)
Merge District , Borough and Country councils where appropriate into Unitary authorities.
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Agree with the RFL/FD alteration - especially now we need to have two cars, one of which is sat at home most of the time...
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I've advocated the Road Fund License change for years but it's unlikely on the grounds of being too obvious.
Better targeting of benefits would save millions.
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@Strat........probably picked the RFL idea up from you
mrmarkus1981
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It annoys me that they are 'consulting the masses' anyway.
For god's sake MAN UP and make the leadership decisions yourself
All this means IMO is that when things inevitably go breasts skyward, they can say 'well you told us this is what you wanted' and take none of the criticism.
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Quote from: Strat
I've advocated the Road Fund License change for years but it's unlikely on the grounds of being too obvious.


There are hidden costs to the normal consumer which may not have been considered. If you transfer the tax from RFL to fuel then travel allowance for business miles when using a private car would have to increased as the cost of running a company car will increase. Which mean the cost of goods and services will increase to the consumer.
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I have to concede that the Road Fund License can discriminate between vehicle classes but fuel duty cannot.
However a vehicle can be driven illegally without a current Road Fund License (although it's getting harder) but not without fuel. Wink
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How to save money?  Halve the allowances MPs get to start..................... and tax em at 50%................................
SRD
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Better targeting of benefits would save millions.
In benefits maybe but would cost trillions in staff to carry out the checks.  This is were the Tories have won out in the past, they've been in favour of low, universal benefits because it keeps the poorest out of desperation and costs relatively little to carry out.
Teds31
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yes I like the idea of getting rid of the RFL ,and in a way the fuel tax would discriminate as bigger cars who now pay more tax also use more fuel.
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The issue surround haulage could be sorted with a tax credit system.
The haulier (and other exempt business vehicles) could claim credit on their annual tax bill equivalent to a proportion of the extra cost.
You still have the issue that foreign vehicles entering the country have a disproportionately lower operating cost, and perhaps a per-trip duty might help on that regard.
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Although I understand, and mainly approve of, the point about RFL there is one aspect of it that can cause further hardship to those who are already disadvantaged and that's the issue of free RFL to those who receive the higher component of disability living allowance.  Vehicles that are adapted to be used by severely disabled people are usually pretty thirsty beasts due to mucking about with the aerodynamic lines of the vehicle to raise roofs or lower floors to allow wheelchair access so not only would those people suffer the 'loss' of the free RFL benefit but would also have much higher fuel charges.  Although this could be dealt with by a simple increase in the mobility component of the dla that would be a general increase for all disabled people rather than the targetted benefit to disabled drivers/passengers and so might be more costly than providing the free RFL.
edit: additionally, receipt of free RFL entitles the disabled driver to reductions, if not completely free, to road tolls such as the Dartford crossing, whilst not a vast expense to the occasional traveller the disabled commuter who regularly uses such toll roads can be hit pretty hard by that increase in costs.