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Sacking MPs: Put the power in voters hands

Midnight_Caller
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Sacking MPs: Put the power in voters hands

Hi All
Just got this from 38 Degrees
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Dear,
It's splashed across The Telegraph today: a group of MPs have come together to say that they need
to regain our trust. [1] And they're right. Many of us think that politics in the UK is broken.
MPs can be sent to prison, can fiddle their expenses or break their promises and we can only get
rid of them on election day. [2]
But, we've got a chance right now to make things better. It looks like the government is making
plans to announce new powers to sack - 'recall' - MPs who don't do their job properly. Good huh?
It would be, but it's a stitch-up. [3]
Their plans could put the power to sack MPs in their colleagues' hands - not their constituents.
The MPs speaking out today don't think this is good enough. They're backing real recall - so if
enough people wanted to hold a by-election to sack their MP in between elections, they could.
Today's news will put the government under pressure. So let's add to it. Let's build a HUGE
people-powered petition so they know we're watching. Can you sign the petition now?
http://www.38degrees.org.uk/recall-2014
A real recall law is not the answer to all of our democracy's problems. But it's a step in the
right direction. And above all, it puts the power into our hands rather than MPs'.
Real recall won't mean that by-elections happen every day. There would be checks and balances in
place so that MPs can get on with their jobs. It's only the bad MPs who will need to worry.
We need to send the government a clear signal, which means the petition needs to be big. Every
signature will build the pressure they'll be under.
Here's what one Conservative MP, Zac Goldsmith said:
"As an MP, I've seen how public pressure can force the government's arm - and they're particularly
sensitive about public trust in MPs right now. A massive petition could give David Cameron and
Nick Clegg no option but to go back to the drawing board - and produce recall with bite."
Please sign the petition now:
http://www.38degrees.org.uk/recall-2014

Thanks for being involved,
Becky, Blanche, Amy, Ali & the 38 Degrees team

PS: The petition is to David Cameron, Nick Clegg and Ed Miliband, (who've all said in the past
that they're committed to it). If Ed Miliband backs real recall - this could put David Cameron and
Nick Clegg in an even trickier position.
Sign the petition:
http://www.38degrees.org.uk/recall-2014
NOTES
[1] The Telegraph:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/10850163/Let-voters-sack-underperforming-politicians-MPs-sa...
[2] House of Commons Library: Recall Elections:
http://www.parliament.uk/documents/commons/lib/research/briefings/snpc-05089.pdf
[3] BBC: Recall plan for MPs 'is a stitch-up':
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-22784664

I've just signed it, to support real power to sack MPs. If you agree, please sign it now.
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Re: Sacking MPs: Put the power in voters hands

No chance of that happening, they have got so much on each other it's more likely they will cover things up or put such a system in place that it would be almost impossible to get rid of an MP.
Even when they are forced to resign due for example of being found guilty in a court of Law they still leave with a nice pension pot, now if they thought that was at risk that might prove to be more of a deterrent.
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Re: Sacking MPs: Put the power in voters hands

I'm in!  Cool
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Re: Sacking MPs: Put the power in voters hands

What we really need is a change in the voting method.
I know we had a referendum on change a few years back; but they didn't ask the correct question.
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Re: Sacking MPs: Put the power in voters hands

But we do get a chance to get rid of our MPs if we want to - at a general election.
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Power corrupts  Wink
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Dear,
It's official: last week, the government announced they'd start work on a new recall law.  But as
suspected, it's a fudge. Their recall puts parliament in charge of sacking MPs, not voters. [1]
But the momentum is growing against these plans. 170,000 of us have signed a petition and MPs from
all parties are demanding real recall - which puts voters in the driving seat. [2] This could be
the most significant change to the way that Britain does politics in decades - and it's within our
grasp.
A group of MPs have started an Early Day Motion - a petition for MPs which would prove how many
are on side. Already, over 20 MPs have signed it and it's growing by the hour. [3]
The more MPs that sign in the next 24 hours, the more pressure the government will be under, and
the better position we'll be in to win. Can you ask your MP, to sign the Early Day
Motion now?
https://secure.38degrees.org.uk/Real-recall-QS
So far, our campaign to get real recall is working. The petition is huge, lots of MPs are backing
it and its been splashed across the media. But we still need to add pressure on the government to
make sure it's the right law.
If lots of MPs sign the Early Day Motion - especially if we get lots of new signatures in the next
24 hours - it'll send shockwaves through Parliament. But some MPs will only sign the EDM if their
voters ask them to. Together, we can show we're watching them.
MPs won't want to be seen as not being on the side of voters. The more of us that get in touch
with our MPs to ask them to sign the EDM, the more likely they are to sign it - and the more
likely it will lead to us securing a law that would allow voters to sack MPs who don't behave
properly.
Even if your MP won't sign the EDM, they should publicly commit to backing a real recall law, or
lobby the government directly to make the right decision.
Can you email your MP,  now?
https://secure.38degrees.org.uk/Real-recall-QS

Thanks for being involved,
Becky, Amy, Blanche, Ali and the rest of the 38 Degrees

PS: Some MPs don't sign EDMs because they don't agree with the process - but it's important we
email them anyway to ask them to publicly back a real recall law. If your MP has a position in
government, they're not allowed to sign EDMs, but it's still important that they hear from their
voters so that they can have conversations with their colleagues directly.
PPS: Last week thousands of 38 Degrees members chipped in to fund the next stage of our campaign
to secure real recall. A lawyer is working on our draft recall law right now and a committee of
MPs is getting up and running. Thank you.

NOTES:
[1] BBC News: Voters 'duped over recall bill', says Zac Goldsmith:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27700169
[2] The Telegraph: Queen's speech: The people, not Westminster grandees, should trigger MP's recall:
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/douglascarswellmp/100274354/queens-speech-the-people-not-westminst...
To view the petition demanding a real recall please click here:
https://secure.38degrees.org.uk/recall-2014
[3] To read the Early Day Motion click here:
http://www.parliament.uk/edm/2014-15/25

I have can you? Can you ask your MP, to sign the Early Day Motion now?
https://secure.38degrees.org.uk/Real-recall-QS