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Replacement of outdated services.

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Replacement of outdated services.

I was reading this post and my immediate thought was 'why not'.
Recently our entire area has had gas, water and electricity supply replacements, requiring digging up streets and laying heavy pipes and cables at a considerable cost.
Why shouldn't the fourth service, namely BT Openreach be also required to maintain their cabling and equipment to a reasonable enough specification.
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Re: Replacement of outdated services.

because gas, water and electricity are basic human rights?
but having a telephone line isn't?
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Re: Replacement of outdated services.

Isn't it said now that you are underprivileged/poor/deprived if you don't have access to a PC/broadband/mobile?
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Re: Replacement of outdated services.

It could be that some of those services use items are 'lifed' with replacement included in costs. However the life of telephone cables is regarded as 'until it becomes too costly to patch up'.
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Re: Replacement of outdated services.

Quote from: billnotben
Isn't it said now that you are underprivileged/poor/deprived if you don't have access to a PC/broadband/mobile?

by whom ?
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Re: Replacement of outdated services.

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because gas, water and electricity are basic human rights?

I would suggest that access to drinkable water is a basic human right.
The rest are 'desirable' services.
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Re: Replacement of outdated services.

heat isn't a basic human right?
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Re: Replacement of outdated services.

No, I see it in the 'desirable' category and it can be provided in a multitude of ways, many of which are not classed as services.
However my topic wasn't intended to be discussing the Human Rights Act Wink
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Re: Replacement of outdated services.

well i only mention it due to, IMO, water, gas, electricity services being basic services that everyone is entitled to.
whereas a telephone line isn't, IMO.
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Re: Replacement of outdated services.

So why doesn't my village have gas and how do I make them provide it
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Re: Replacement of outdated services.

once you have the service (any utility service) you pay a standing charge (or line rental for the phone) which theoretically works out as the money to replace your bit of the service every 25 years .....
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Re: Replacement of outdated services.

There's probably an increased risk of gas or water leaks as the pipes get older, which would be dangerous and/or a waste of gas or water.
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Re: Replacement of outdated services.

similarly there are conductivity problems and stretching with older wires in phone and electric supply systems (not so with fibre optics) so replacing things on a rolling pre planned maintenance basis is the smart thing to do, for some unfathomable reason all the utility companies stopped performing these functions shortly after privatisation (including national grid, hence the problems with pylon lines) which lead to many successive operating fines on several companies most notably thames water and severn trent...... Ofwat being the toothless apologist of a regulator that it is however fails more than it succeeds at ensuring ancient leakage systems are replaced or repaired and current losses are estimated to be around 3.4billion litres a day (give or take half a billion) there was a nice long article in the guardian about it back in 2012 http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/may/08/water-industry-pipes-scandal
the gas mains aren't any better and again leaky systems are often only replaced when something goes wrong (like a fire ....)
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So why doesn't my village have gas and how do I make them provide it

because you have electricity.
if you didn't have that then you'd have gas.
one or the other as a basic right, not both.
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Re: Replacement of outdated services.

I know of a couple who bought a house then paid to have the gas supply removed, right back to the street before they would move in.
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