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Presidential Impeachment Inquiry

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It's been a while since there was a president that suffered from high-velocity lead poisoning, just a random but not totally unrelated thought......... 😎

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@twocvbloke wrote:

It's been a while since there was a president that suffered from high-velocity lead poisoning,


The NRA is behind Trump, so are most of the people with guns - so 1 republican gets killed and

millions of democrats get shot ...... single brain cell cry baby dummy spitting Pelosi would be the first.

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The Democrats were not able to get a result due to the lack of witnesses stepping forward.

The result has not done the Democrats any favours. They have yet to select a candidate to stand against Trump. Buttigieg is not known well enough in the country and Sanders is too left wing. One possibility, if Biden doesn't get the nomination, is Bloomberg. He is highly regarded throughout the country and has indicated his willingness to stand.

 

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@artmo wrote:

The Democrats were not able to get a result due to the lack of witnesses stepping forward.


Mainly because there was nothing to witness.....................and it wasn't an impeachable act by Trump anyway

The democrats have gone as loopy as Labour and libDums  have in UK - as I said both seem hell bent on

commiting political suicide.  What they have done with this impeachment fiasco is mobilise Trump support and

probably convince some undecided voters that the Washington swamp still hasn't been drained enough.

 

We think that remainers are bad for not accepting the 2016 vote in UK,  but that is exactly what democrats in USA

have done - they still haven't accepted the result of their 2016 vote either....they are acting as though only they are

entitled to be in government and Trump is not really president.

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There is a slight difference in that in the UK more people voted Leave than Remain, whilst in the US more people voted for Mrs Clinton than Mr Trump; it was the electoral college system that resulted in Trump becoming president.  Rather than tearing up presidential speeches perhaps they should campaign to make presidential elections more democratic.

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On the other hand there are around 150 million voters in USA,  so the extra 2.5 million who voted for Democrats ( Clinton ) in 2016 was around 1.5% of electorate,  much less than the 4% gap between leave and remain that the remainers said was, tiny or miniscule or not enough and did their best to overturn.  The electoral college system only applies to presidential elections, it is to try and even up the influence of smaller less populous states against the larger states and cities. 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Electoral_College

 

 

The Electoral College system is a matter of ongoing debate. Supporters of the Electoral College argue that it is fundamental to American federalism, that it requires candidates to appeal to voters outside large cities, increases the political influence of small states, preserves the two-party system, and makes the electoral outcome appear more legitimate than that of a nationwide popular vote.

 

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Proportional Representation combined with the normal "First past the post" with the numbers of voters for many elections would have resulted in some very different outcomes had the UK's voting system not been based on Bums on Seats...

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@wotsup wrote:

...the 4% gap between leave and remain...


THe difference between leave and remain votes was 1 269 501 which was only 2.7% of the electorate and approximately 1.9% of the population.

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preserves the two-party system, and makes the electoral outcome appear more legitimate than that of a nationwide popular vote.

 


So it's all about fooling the people into thinking they live in a democracy. 😀

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I'm sure many of you have read this but it's always worth repeating. 

‘Many forms of Government have been tried, and will be tried in this world of sin and woe. No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all-wise. Indeed it has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.…’

Winston S Churchill, 11 November 1947

 

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@rEUnite wrote:


THe difference between leave and remain votes was 1 269 501 which was only 2.7% of the electorate


It was around 4% of the people who voted, not my fault if some people cannot be bothered to vote.........

Unless voting is made compulsory there is no way to get a true result, and even then maybe a lot of spoiled

ballot papers to avoid a fine.

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I think voting should be compulsory, but incentivise it rather than make it a drudgery, like being given a fiver to vote as a reward or something...

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@rEUnite wrote:

@wotsup wrote:

...the 4% gap between leave and remain...


THe difference between leave and remain votes was 1 269 501 which was only 2.7% of the electorate and approximately 1.9% of the population.


@RobC @rEUnite 

But 3.78% of the people who bothered to vote.

Either way, a majority voted to leave - get over it.

I forgot to mention an episode of Politics Live a few days ago where your friend Layla Moron was still harping on about staying in the Customs Union and Single Market - strewth, when are you people going to realise what's happened.

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you wer@wotsup wrote:

@rEUnite wrote:


THe difference between leave and remain votes was 1 269 501 which was only 2.7% of the electorate


It was around 4% of the people who voted, not my fault if some people cannot be bothered to vote.........


In your post I was replying to, you compared the ‘4%’ gap between leave and remain votes with 1.5% of the electorate in the US in 2016. I was simply making the comparison a little more legitimate. You were comparing apples with oranges