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Phone That Selectively Blocks Outgoing Calls

alanf
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Phone That Selectively Blocks Outgoing Calls

I have seen posts from members seeking to block calls to mobile phones - a service that Plusnet does not offer.
BT is advertising the BT6500 phone which has features for blocking nuisance calls AND that controls with a PIN the types of outgoing calls that can be made. (An obvious issue being that one would have to ensure that no other phone could be plugged in anywhere in the home.)
https://www.bt.com/includingyou/products-phones-bt-callcontrol-6500.html
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TORPC
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Re: Phone That Selectively Blocks Outgoing Calls

Thunderclap
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Re: Phone That Selectively Blocks Outgoing Calls

I would like to see PlusNet offer a service of outbound and inbound call filtering at the exchange - and free as part of their "honest" product range. Face it, spam telelphone calls are a far greater nuisance to PlusNet customers than email spam, and you can filter that. Any unwanted calls should go to voice mail - which means the sender still gets charged.
But as no-one else does it, I doubt there's any demand for that.
TORPC
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Re: Phone That Selectively Blocks Outgoing Calls

Quote from: Thunderclap
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But as no-one else does it, I doubt there's any demand for that.

With the new changes in place by PN towers
It would be nice if they could start the trend Smiley
pwatson
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Re: Phone That Selectively Blocks Outgoing Calls

Plusnet resell the BT Wholesale phone service and can only offer features at a) the exchange software supports and b) that BTW make available and list on their price list. 
In the case of Call Barring this is a feature available elesewhere and PN are very late in bringing it to market.  As for blocking inbound calls, this isn't a feature and what criteria would be employed to determine if a call is 'unwanted'?
TORPC
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Re: Phone That Selectively Blocks Outgoing Calls

Criteria of UnWanted Calls
1. Nuisance calls IE: PPI, call centre(s) that want your money (illegally)
2. Threatening / Disturbing Calls IE: when they threaten your life / wellbeing
3. Harassment IE: When Callers ignore your on TPS, & will not tick the (DO NOT CALL CUSTOMER)  box
Need I say anymore Wink
pwatson
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Re: Phone That Selectively Blocks Outgoing Calls

What criteria can *the exchange* use to automatically determine whether to pass a call or not?
TORPC
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Does it have to be @ the Exchange ?Huh
Are there not alternative ways,  that ISP's can / could use / implement ?Huh
pwatson
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Re: Phone That Selectively Blocks Outgoing Calls

No.  I suggest a little bit of research on how phone networks work  Roll eyes
nanotm
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anr is the only blocking option for receipt of calls that can be implemented at the exchange, other than that all rejections are done at the user end and only in conjunction with CLI (which is apparently fallible since VOIP can spoof fixed lines .....)
the only way a phone company could block calls without physically needing to use the exchange is if all calls were routed through a VOIP server, no company is going to convert telephony use into data use by default just to implement specialised personal telephony options on a user to user basis when they can achieve the same effect without exorbitant cost to themselves simply by flogging end user devices with the capability built into them .....
also I'd like to point out that if you have dealings with any government department and in many cases private businesses, any ANR setting will mean you don't receive any call-backs (something that often serves to amuse me  when reading stupid people's complaints about lack of customer service),
if you are really serious about rejecting calls then your better off getting a decent smartphone and setting it to reject all calls not from your people list  (assuming that icrap/droid are advanced enough to have this feature) otherwise deal with it and inform BTOR whenever anyone ignores the TPF settings !
just because your paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you
Thunderclap
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Re: Phone That Selectively Blocks Outgoing Calls

Cool Okay, so when you dial 1471, where exactly where is that information coming from? Somewhere in the chain the caller's id is being sent - even if you've not got caller id. Surely that could be used for a look up... in the Cloud?
As for rejecting numbers, the PN customer would for example, have a page on their account where they set up a list of number rules.
For example, reject all inbound 0800* numbers and all known PPI numbers [ you know who they are ]. Or send all number withhelds to voice mail. The customer will also be able to block outbound numbers to say the USA or any premium rate number. It would be a home-phone-firewall. I'm no engineer, but commerically, it's a USP customers want.
nanotm
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only works with transmitted numbers, anyone using a none PSTN internal exchange (most businesses utilise pabx for internal call handling so there not transmitting the number)
your advocating that  telephony company's route all telephony traffic via servers (in this case plusnet)  which would change all telecom traffic into data traffic, remove the ability of a phone exchange from sending a ring tone and require all customers to use a VOIP capable router for there phone, a very expensive idea when you could just sell them the already available pone system that will reject all unwanted calls or block outgoing calls as per the custoemrs preference.
a home phone firewall as you put it would require major changes to the entire telecoms network infrastructure, at its hear the phone system has barely changed in 50 years, sure the old mechanical systems have been replaced but the whole audio system still works as audio getting multiplexed down a twisted copper pair......
just because your paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you