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Petition to get FTTP to every home
25-02-2016 7:00 PM
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https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/122924
The idea is to get the topic discussed in Parliament. The originator, not me :), told a Parliamentary Sub-Committee that describing BT Infinity as "Fibre Broadband" is the biggest con trick played on the British Public since the South Sea Bubble. He regards the FTTC implementation as a technology dead-end.
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25-02-2016 7:08 PM
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25-02-2016 7:13 PM
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25-02-2016 9:20 PM
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26-02-2016 5:30 AM
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I'd be happy if they increased the fibre cabinets. I'm in London with my nearest cabinet 800 metres away, cable length, on an aluminium phone cable to outside my house. Cheaper option and do-able, maybe.
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26-02-2016 7:52 AM
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BT could also reduce its operational maintenance costs by moving away from copper pair technology. The only real barrier is corporate short term profit motive.
Here's an astute take on the development of telecomms in the UK.
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26-02-2016 9:40 AM
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26-02-2016 11:37 AM
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Quote from: AlaricAdair He regards the FTTC implementation as a technology dead-end.
Yet it's a technology used by every industrialized country and still being rolled out worldwide.
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26-02-2016 11:41 AM
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Aluminium is dreadful. According to the engineer 58Mbps is being pushed out from the cabinet but only 20Mbps of that is getting to me.
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26-02-2016 1:37 PM
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the cost of replacing the copper system isn't the only consideration, some copper lines would have to be maintained (although in fairness less than 100 lines in most exchanges) and everything else could be replaced by fibre, the existing street cabs could have the current cards changed and fibre be used to replace the metal cables to each subscriber (but they would need ot work on how to do that) instead of running new fibres from the exchange direct to peoples homes,
the costs of doing the work are the single biggest expense in any case and you would need to pass new laws preventing people from being able to block the works from getting undertaken for them to run at peek efficiency (because its no good demanding the upgrade only for some nimby to moan they need to drive down the road and your not digging up my rhodidendrums...... wasting billions nationally in pointless court costs and adding years to the timetable)
and therin lies the problem (no matter who is laying the lines or what there made of) they cant just unplug the old lines and pull new ones through the same routes so they have to lay down new ones (so as to cause minimal disruptions to service) and the old stuff just gets left in place, (because recovering it needs new works access and permits and the same nimbyism problems) meaning its dead money.
if BT were able to unplug you at the exchange and run the fibre up the existing trunking a lot of the upfront costs would be mitigated by sales of recovered assets (metals and other working assets like cabinets) but not giving that option means you have to front load the cost of the national project through bond sales and then hope you make enough to cover the interst annually and save up enough to repay them at the end point (without some chancellor deciding to steal it all out of your corporate accounts through new legislation like brown did in the past)
i'd be happy if my local council front funded the cost off FTTP for everyone in the area (going zone by zone) and BT repaid them as it sold off the recovered gear, and if they set up wifi repeater nodes for the interim to provide a minimal service level for the weeks of disruption i'd even be okay with that (most people have mobiles anyway) if it meant getting real fibre across the entire town, of course the roads disruption would be another problem and so in reality whilst necessary such a project would never be possible (it took them 24 months to replace the 100 year old water pipes so the roads could be kept open for most of the time, instead of just closing them for a week and doing the work all at once on the main traffic arteries......)
as with most things it sounds great looks good on paper but fails the second it contacts the real world....
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27-02-2016 6:53 PM
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He told me that the ally cable on my estate isn't in trunking but just laid underground. It will remain in situ until the phone network starts to break as that is what it was designed for. In his opinion the cable is degrading quite badly, he reports it on a regular basis, but whilst the phone works.....
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27-02-2016 7:10 PM
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27-02-2016 8:07 PM
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28-02-2016 9:35 AM
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29-02-2016 7:05 AM
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