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Parking fine

I've just had a call from my wife.  She spent the afternoon in Cambridge, to pick up our son, and take the opportunity to do some shopping.  She's just got back to her car to find a parking ticket.  She had a permit on her windscreen, but it had fallen off at some point in the afternoon. Angry
Does anyone have any experience of asking for the ticket to be reviewed under these circumstances?
John
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Re: Parking fine

it's worth a punt (pun fully intended) ... but I used to live in cambridge and even with a resident's permit properly displayed I used to get towed away from time to time and pay for the privilege of getting it back. Parking is a nightmare in Cambridge and they're very tough on it.
Send them a copy of the ticket (or a photo) and a covering letter and hope for the best. I never stick P&D tickets on for this very reason -- I always leave them clearly on the dash now and check before i leave the car it can be properly seen
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Write in and ask for the PCN to be cancelled. If they refuse take it further to an adjudication. Make sure your initial letter gets to them WITHIN 14 days and it will then be frozen. What ever the result it is typical for an authority to give you a further fresh 14 days to pay at the reduced rate.
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Use the "Proper Business letter approach"  i.e. put the recipients name, department, and address above the date above the Dear sir, ..... also Make sure the letter is sent "Recorded" or "Registered" so that it gets signed for.... also put a note on the bottom of the letter  (just after the signature)
"Copy saved in XXXXX folder for future reference".....
This helps to re-inforce your wish to take it to higher authority if necessary...
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Erm, actually thats codswallop with the exception of sending it as signed for.
Parking offices ignore stuff like that. They don't see it as a personal thing, a threatening thing, or a battle. To them its just a penalty to try and enforce. If they let it go then they let it go otherwise its an adjudication.
Additionally parking staff don't give names so you'd be hard pressed to send it to the recipients name. Re-enforcing your desire to take it further up the chain means nothing to parking authorities. To them it is a daily occurrence and as mentioned above they don't take it personally as its just another case to them.
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The "proper" way to approach the "please let me off letter"... IS in a business like approach...  whilst the "office manager" may or may not at his discretion accede to your request. it will be viewed in a much better light than scribbling a few threats on the back of a fag packet,.... (which is what you are implying from your post)...
NOTE.. I did not say put threats into the letter... I merely said,  that the approach I suggested would also "reinforce"  the desire to get a good result... Perhaps I should have used the word "emphasize" ....
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I never said anything about any fag packets. All I did try to point out is that using your approach is frankly daft. Parking staff won't be taking notice of "Filed in xxxx for future reference" type threats. Frankly to them its just funny because they see that kind of thing daily where people try to big themselves up.
Trust me, I've got experience in this sector.
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So what you are saying then is...... treat ignorance with ignorance, because if you do it "properly" it will be ignored by the ignorant... 
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Frankly to them its just funny because they see that kind of thing daily where people try to big themselves up.

Trust me, I've got experience in this sector.

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I got a parking fine when the ticket was actually on side window instead of windscreen once - so I photographed it with date [as they had done of blank windscreen] and took it with a letter to the office and hand delivered it along with photocopy of ticket.
Got a letter saying that they were investigating and it was "frozen" for so many days, and then I got a letter saying the fine had been lifted.  The letter also pointed out though that tickets should Always be on windscreen and visible [this was underlined twice!!] so now that is what I do.
I suggest you write in and send copy of permit so that they can see you have that.
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So what you are saying then is...... treat ignorance with ignorance, because if you do it "properly" it will be ignored by the ignorant... 
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Frankly to them its just funny because they see that kind of thing daily where people try to big themselves up.

Trust me, I've got experience in this sector.



Shutter you see it however you want. All I've said is that you'll have a hard time sending it to any name, and that using "Filed in xxxxx for future reference" will be pointless. Whether or not you accept that from someone with experience or not is up to you but you do not know how to handle this situation better than me I'm afraid.
I've posted good clear simple advice above. Write a polite informal letter explaining what has happened and see what they say. There is no reason to go all military and filing letters all around trying to make yourself look like some kind of legal specialist looking to pick a fight. In the parking sector it's pointless.
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At the end of the day one is being penalised for " Failure to Display" and not " Failure to Have" but I'd certainly appeal in the circumstances.
One has nothing to lose by sending a polite, business like, letter - we all have computers, printers etc. At least, then, there's a good chance that the letter will be read and, hopefully, have the desired effect.
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Thanks all.  The notice says that you can email, so I'll try that (in a polite and business-like way of course), with a copy of the permit, in the hope that someone will be feeling festive and generous in the season of goodwill.  Wink  I'll post back with the outcome.
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As I said earlier they may well refuse to cancel it. If they do take it to an adjudicator. I'd be very surprised if the ticket is still enforced  Wink
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I did get a parking ticket canceled some time ago, there is a thread here somewhere. I got it for parking for over an hour while helping my father move house. I wrote them a letter and sent proof of my dad's ill health and they canceled it.
Unless you can prove that you had a permit then it is probably best not to try as the fine gets increased when you loose an appeal.
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Some of these traffic wardens are a law unto themselves.
Around here they have been known to put them on hearses outside churches during a funeral, fire pumps , ambulances attending incidents
but usually they are cancelled on appeal.