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PC brigade gone mad

The PC brigade have gone mad see
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/south_east/7500376.stm
A mother cant travel to school with her OWN son until she is CRB checked even though her son needs medication which she is trained to give. If he is taken without her and need his medicine he could die as no one can give it him.
Thats the second crazy thing this week when Ester Ranson who founded childline was reported for kissing a child as it was inappropriate. She told how her son I think it was was called to the school to remove a splinter from his son as the school wouldn't do it. At the school you can film sports day and no one is allowed to win in case it offends someone.
The there was the Muslims in Prison who demand drug dogs must wear shoes when they search their cells.
When will this madness end? You dare not speak to a child in the street in case you get arrested and take a picture of anything you better make sure no kid walk into your shot or else.
Seems everyone has rights unless you boring British then you dont. You must be colored, gay, some strange religion, walk with  a limp and then  you have loads of rights
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I sometimes do some invigilation for GCE exams at the school round the corner (for money!).
I have to be CRB checked now - it takes a couple of months.
They have built a guardhouse at the entrance to the school with a pole to make it difficult for cars.
I'm just waiting for the razor wire to go up Smiley Smiley

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Security at my teenage daughter's school was stepped up, after a group of troublesome ex-pupils (sorry, students) entered and disrupted lessons. The school is also a polling station for elections and remains open as a school during the day. Numerous people were found (innocently) wandering, lost, around the corridors, far away from the polling area and escorted out. Sort of makes a nonsense of the 'increased security' don't you think?
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This is an extract from an official child protection policy
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Being accompanied by the parent or carer is important as it is only the person with legal parental responsibility who can give consent to their child receiving medical attention. (Except in the cases of older children (some 14 & 15 year olds and most 16 & 17 year olds) who may be able to give their own consent).
This stupid rule is perhaps why the school wouldn't remove a splinter. Is this a case of too broad a definition of medical attention
An example of how bad things have become is shown by this extract from the same policy
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<redacted> can also involve meetings of small numbers of people, sometimes in private houses. It is possible to imagine that some older children may occasionally get involved with this organising/committee side of work. Should this arise, care should be taken by all to ensure that no situation arises where a child is left one-to-one with an adult.
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Quote from: samuria
The PC brigade have gone mad see
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/south_east/7500376.stm

*speechless*

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I sometimes do some invigilation for GCE exams at the school round the corner (for money!).
I have to be CRB checked now - it takes a couple of months.
They have built a guardhouse at the entrance to the school with a pole to make it difficult for cars.
I'm just waiting for the razor wire to go up Smiley Smiley

My school already had barbed wire around the outside, and the gates were locked after everyone was inside in the morning (It was inner-city Belfast in the '70s)
I understand the frustration of a parent looking after their own child, when no other children are present, but I also have to agree with adults being CRB checked if they are being given the repsonsibilty of supervising children. (paid or otherwise)
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Do any parents still use baby sitting circles and, if so, are all the members CRB checked.
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I went on a weekend away with a primary school as a 'responsible adult' not too long ago.
I had to be CRB checked too, but they left it too late so the results didn't come through until after the event.
I suppose they were confident, as I was a long-time friend of one of the department heads arranging the trip, and was also renting a room from her at the time.
In a situation like that, what would parents want to happen? Would they want the trip cancelling because they didn't have enough adult supervision, or would they prefer the weekend to go ahead with two unchecked supervisors?
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Last Summer I was driving home. It was a very warm evening but a torrential downpour was in progress.
Just up the road I saw a young woman carrying a young child. Both had obviously dressed for a lovely sunny day and had been caught out by the rain and were soaked.
As there was no shelter around my instinct was to stop and offer them a lift but I didn't.
The reason is clear from the subject of this thread.
This, unfortunately is how society is evolving. Into what I dread to imagine Sad
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As someone who has been CRB cleared so I can drive school buses, I wonder how much notice is taken of the supplied information, my instinct was that one could enter a pack of lies if that way inclined, with not too much chance of it being failed. Personally I thought it was a paper exercise, as most things seem to be with this government.
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Actually, I have the impression that it's all privatised.
My  details including passport details and a dozen proofs that I exist have to be sent to some place with no "Department of..." in the address.
I suppose the school pays.

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If you are checked and it fails does the school etc get to know why? If they do then so much for Data protection as everyone at school would no you have a problem.
Even if they dont get the details  people will put 2 + 2 together and make five.
I applied for a job at Cheshire Police redisging their network and had to be checked. I had worked for Underwater weapons before ok the Police check came back ok and they said I could be a policeman if I wanted but I couldnt work on the computers as MI5 had objected.

I never found out why but it puts agencies off. I do remember drooping litter when I was 12 and scrumping apples maybe that was it
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I've had to have done and also do a few of these as child protection officer at church.
There are various agencies that can perform the check, but all use the CRB.
It isn't a pass or fail, just information for you to decide whether the person is suitable to work in the role applied for. Each institution also has to have a rehabilition of offenders statement too, which could negate some of the information on the form
The same form is returned for each person and most of the time is blank as there is nothing, however we've had one form returned that ran to many sheets and included a letter from the chief constable - so I don't think it is a waste of time. As long as people don't change theire name, that seems to confuse things.
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MI5 might object if you went on Ban the Bomb Marches or anything like that in your younger days....................