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Now it's really getting hot: Putin is building new NUKES.

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Now it's really getting hot: Putin is building new NUKES.

Excuse the DM linking / story, I know many will want me shot:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2751210/Putin-announces-Russia-developing-new-nuclear-conven...
This is seriously worrying. Putin is turning into a loose canon. The man is not right in the head and seems to be on a mission to cause an international crisis or even a new world war.
Small winky syndrome perhaps?
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Re: Now it's really getting hot: Putin is building new NUKES.

He's a man leading a government with a large sum of money in the bank. That same country has been invaded twice in recent history with millions of Russians dying as a result. Over the past few decades their military was allowed to languish and have obsolete equipment. The majority of Russians will support his plans to modernise their forces.
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Re: Now it's really getting hot: Putin is building new NUKES.

the UK and the USA have both continually made new nukes, trident was created after the unilateral disarmament treaty was signed, the treaty was in effect a PR stunt, they weren't agreeing to stop production of nukes but rather agreeing to get rid of the dangerous old stuff in a safe way.
sure we don't make as many as the Russians are preparing to but the west has still been keeping its productions lines running, and whilst Russia has spent the last 20 years researching and developing missile's the west has concentrated on superior airpower, in a shooting war Russia's anti air tech would likely render the air superiority of the west defunct, and now they are going to reinforce the production lines of their latest ground hardware (like the tanks) whilst the west has sat back since the development of Abram's 2/ challanger 2 for almost 20 years doing nothing.
sure right now the Russians have hoards of obsolescent kit but a year or two they will have better ground equipment than the rest of the world so the west and china should both start investing heavily in those area's as Russia's anti air capability already out strips the airpower capabilities of everything short of ICBM's, many of which were fitted with low yield TNT type warheads and wasted during the gulf war and not replaced (the only cheap multi role ICBM in the west's are-sena-l), a single trident sub has the ability to obliterate 50% of Russia and between the USA and the UK there are enough to do take out the whole of Russia 10 times over.......Russia OTOH has only just finished their proof development of the ss-2X's replacement delivery system (some 30 years late) and is now getting it into production (the west replaced its comparable Polaris systems in the 80's)
its slightly worrying that they are making the announcement now, but really if what he said was true that would also mean now was the perfect time to let Ukraine into NATO as the Russians don't have the ability to defeat the combined forces in air or ground technology and would have to wait 3 years until they have produced enough parts to mount an attack (by which time the west could conceivably have upgraded their equipment significantly Smiley
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Re: Now it's really getting hot: Putin is building new NUKES.

One point to note is just over twice the size of the current UK, but the strength of the Russian Army is about times that of the UK. Each year over 400,000 Russian conscripts are trained for military service, so the reserve forces are considerably larger than the standing army. It just goes to show how the successive UK governments have neglected our defence forces.
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Re: Now it's really getting hot: Putin is building new NUKES.

Worth bearing in mind my earlier post under the title, Ukraine, could this happen.
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Re: Now it's really getting hot: Putin is building new NUKES.

Great Britain has weapons of mass destruction too.
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Re: Now it's really getting hot: Putin is building new NUKES.

Yes, they are called MP's
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Re: Now it's really getting hot: Putin is building new NUKES.

However they seem to be mass destroying their own, instead of the enemies Sad
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Re: Now it's really getting hot: Putin is building new NUKES.

About 3-4 years ago the warning signs were there, but I dont think this hit the national news but did hit the east anglia news.
Loads of russian unarmed planes started appearing around the east coast and they would hang around until escorted away by fighter aircraft its as if they were probing how quick they were detected and defense planes were launched.
Also isnt putin ex KGB?