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Northumbria Uni

The BBC are reporting that at Nothumbria Uni 700 student have tested positive for Covid. Sheffield Uni and Liverpool Uni are also reporting around 200 each as well....I wonder why there are so many?Undecided

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 I wonder why there are so many  ? ? ? ? ? ? 

 

one word.......

 

 

Students ........Roll_eyes

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Oooh, it hasn't spead as far down as Birmingham yet (where I went to), though it could do.

Yeah I know @shutter, it is a difficult time when you still have to go to lectures. I suppose in this day and age it will be done remotely. Annoyingly I can't find my Microsoft webcam, I will have a look at what is called the abyss of my bedroom, I got one because an employment agency wanted a video call with me and I didn't have one. I suppose it is 2020 now and what with this going on working from home they are needed. Just hate looking at my face as I am not very photogenic (now they'res an understatement!).

I hope I find it which will save me spending another 17 quid on another one. I know what will happen, I won't find it until I spend another 17 quid on a new one, then I will find the old one. I suppose I will then have the option of having one on my Mac & PC and the other on my TV.

Sorry, back on topic, depends on how well behaved they are being. Trouble is you introduce lockdowns, people get bored and quickly want to revert back to their old ways. It may just be for fun, or necessary - such as shopping, as it doesn't just conjure itself into the kitchen for free (now that would be nice 😊). I know of course you've got on-line deliveries, but there is only so much you can do at home.

I don't think there is an easy answer to this, just try and get on with your life as best you can but prepare you're all going to have to make changes for the time being.

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I suspect that there is rather a difference between masked people socially distancing whilst doing their shopping or attending lectures to what has been going on in universities or other places where there are large gatherings of the younger generation. At least the majority will survive without needing medical intervention and so help build up some herd immunity.

So as long as they keep their bugs in the university then maybe the rest of us who have no contact with this group should be grateful?

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Grateful will be those that did not achieve the grades to get into university this year.

Nine grand a year only to get stuck in your room on campus? I should cocoa. 


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I see your point. If you look at many of the subjects 'taught' the 9 grand a year seems to be the joining fee for 3 years of loafing around having a good time whilst attending the odd tutorial that will do little or nothing to prepare you for a useful career.

The snag is that often you can't get an interview for a well paid job in many professions unless you have been through the degree rigmarole first, regardless of how well it prepares you for work.

In the engineering company that used to employ me there was a minimum entrance requirement for a degree. Without one HR clerks rejected applications without the CV coming near someone who could really assess the application. Even for useful subjects I came across more than one 'fully qualified' just out of university 'engineer' with lots of letters to stick after their name who, when given a simple report to write, couldn't string two sentences together in a coherent way. 

It's time that proper Apprenticeships were more widely promoted properly with those apprentices who are more mature, do well after a year or two and would benefit from more academic training given the opportunity to move on to relevant degree courses that would benefit their career.

 

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I would suggest that anybody that goes to university thinking that a degree will give them a right to a job needs to have their heads examined. All changed now at least for the foreseeable, but it should in my opinion at least (for what it's worth) be looked at as a rite of passage, a chance to grow, and a chance for self responsibilty along with a wider perspective on life.

It's what I told my kids anyway... sort of.

 


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@Baldrick1 Agree! The number of gradates I have worked with over the years who have no idea of what there doing but think they should be running things are to numerous to count.....but they could all hold there beer!!!!FunnyThumbs_Up

 

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@Minivanman wrote:

... in my opinion at least (for what it's worth) be looked at as a rite of passage, a chance to grow, and a chance for self responsibilty along with a wider perspective on life.


So what is maybe required  for those who do not take up an apprenticeship is something more akin to National Service but concentrating on learning discipline, self reliance. cooking, cleaning and social responsibility with community work replacing military training.

 

 

 

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Sounds like a good idea.......except it would not work in most cases.

Some children are treated like gods with parents doing everything for them and providing them with almost anything they ask for......sadly such parents are doing their children no favours doing that and when they get to the age your suggestion would apply are they likely to knuckle down and do those things...you mention national service but in those days they had various methods to make you conform, these days if you raise your voice or even use the wrong language you are the one in the wrong..

 

 

So whilst your suggestion in principle is good I cannot see it would work

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@Minivanman wrote:

I would suggest that anybody that goes to university thinking that a degree will give them a right to a job needs to have their heads examined. All changed now at least for the foreseeable, but it should in my opinion at least (for what it's worth) be looked at as a rite of passage, a chance to grow, and a chance for self responsibilty along with a wider perspective on life.

It's what I told my kids anyway... sort of.

 


It might be more accurate to say that if those going to university select the correct degree course they stand a good chance of getting a job in that chosen career, the key is to work out what job are going to be needed in the future and a good indicator is what we have a shortfall of now EG: Doctors Nurses Chemists.

Plenty of other examples.....The universities need to stop offering degrees in every subject they can think of and think more about how valuable a degree with be to students, rather than thinking how much money they can get off young people.

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Fair point, but even getting the correct degree does not give rights to a job at the end of it. Granted it helps not to have media or sports studies and a few others we could all mention.

I don't regard my own time as completely wasted although with job in mind it could have been better spent - but then as a mature student that was never the intent so...

As for doctors, nurses and such then medical schools rather than 'universities' might be better considered.   


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We still have medical schools, they are part of universities, and every doctor has two bachelor's degrees, MB (Bachelor of Medicine) and BS (no, not what you are thinking, but Bachelor of Surgery), sometimes written ChB or Bch.  One bright young medical student I came  across once had discovered that if he worked hard over the summer somewhere in the middle of his course he could sit exams and also get himself a BSc in biochemistry.

One peculiarity in this country is that once a doctor specialises in surgery and becomes a member of the Royal College of Surgeons (MRCS), he/she is no longer a Dr but reverts to being a Mr/Ms.  Dentists are dental surgeons and until fairly recently they exclusively used the title Mr/Ms.  I assume the reason they now use the title Dr is so as not to be considered less qualified than their foreign counterparts who use the title Dr.

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That doctor title is confusing as it's only honourary - unless of course they have done a PhD of some sort. It's all down to history as they say along with those red and white poles for barber surgeons!

One of our teachers back in school (c1960) had nothing academic to his name yet he would get letters from Germany addressed to Herr Doktor Professor! 

 

 


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