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No wrath here...

I bought a grape vine a few years ago. I just thought it would hide an ugly fence, but now we have grapes for the third year running.
Decided I'm going to have a bash at making some wine. 
Cheers all!! Wink
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them grapes look nice doris  Wink
wine should be tasty
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Is that just one vine? Looks very full.
You'll need a wine taster I assume Wink Wink
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Grab yourself a book about how to look after the vine..... how to prune, when to prune, what to feed it with... etc..
The grapes will improve, and, .... because of all your effort, so will you appreciation of the vine and the wine....
Enjoy...  Wink
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I assume the grapes can be eaten as normal Undecided
What proof is the wine?
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Could be black hamburg they usually do well in this country, the usual setup is to have the vine in a green house with the roots outside.
From the photo I guess they get the sun for most of the day.
@artmo
I think the best proof you can get for a wine is 14% as the alcohol kills the yeast off at that level.
No doubt someone will provide a link to Port or similar wines at 20% but these are fortified wines to which alcohol has been added.
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often the proof depends on the brewing temperature as well as how much of each ingredient you added, if its not temperature controlled environment at a perfect 21degrees celcius then it will have a lower proof, if the temp goes above 25 degrees chances are it will retard the brewing process and above 26 degrees it kills all the activity and your left with half brewed gunk that's barely fit for drain cleaner ......
I gave up brewing a few years back when I lost my specialist kit in a house move and didn't have the  spare cash to spend another few grand replacing it......
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@ Artmo....that is a fraction of one vine. Approx a fifth. Thats after pruning it back to a foot above the ground at end of last season. and grapes can be eaten as normal. Very sweet but spoiled by the size of the pip.
@ Gleneagles.. all grown outside, and yes they get the sun all day.
@ Shutter... thanks for advice. have read about viticulture on-line, but a proper book with illustrations ( particularly regarding pruning/cutting back) would be great.  Off to the library tomorrow.
I'm looking forward to my first glass - though I doubt I will get more than a couple of bottles. Wink
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@nanotm,
Specialist kit, a few grand ? That must have been some kit.
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Remove socks when treading grapes.
Now Zen, but a +Net residue.
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well it was a few years back and yeah it wasn't the 80 quid kit from wilko's, it was a liner kit for a room (insulator) with heater/fan unit sensors heat belts and control unit, the liner was only 150 quid but the gubbins was the expensive parts, I did try using the el cheapo heating belts but all the brews came out flat and heavy so I gave it up as a bad job and sold the few bits I had left over from the most expensive move I ever suffered ....
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Heaters, fans, insulation ?
Are you sure we are talking about brewing wine and beer ?
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when the uncontrolled temperature range is +36 to -10 degrees celcius then yes we are....
even here in the UK the room I use for brewing has massive fluctuations (which was why I stopped brewing because I couldn't afford to replace the environmental control kit) between +30 in summer and -5 in the winter, it being the only cupboard in the house.....
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Well I got away with an insulated 5 gallon bucket with a thermostat and heater in it, the insulation being that stuff you have or should have in your loft.
My gear was in an old outhouse because of the smell which didn't bother me but bothered other people using the house.
The outhouse was not insulated so reached the tempatures below freezing which you mention.
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that sounds similar to what I tried but because the belt only ever heated a small spot in the whole as it were it often killed the yeast at that location and the cold killed the yeast at the top, so I ended up with flat heavy brew's and gave it up, i'll get a proper system setup (on the cheap) in the future once the kids leave and I get more space Smiley
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