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No Survivors from Airliner Crash

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Re: No Survivors from Airliner Crash

Interesting article here on it https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/2/18518176/boeing-737-max-crash-problems-human-error-mcas-faa
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Boeing admits it knew about the problem over a year ago.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-48174797

I wonder if airlines and passengers will ever feel safe using this aircraft again.

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I seem to remember that this was mentioned in news reports shortly after the second crash... so really, it is not new news ....

 

 

https://community.plus.net/t5/General-Chat/No-Survivors-from-Airliner-Crash/m-p/1620342#M252086

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Yes but this is the first time Boeing has officially confirmed it.

Last week investors were putting pressure on Boeing to 'come clean' about the matter.

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Boeing is working on their next project:

 

It’s being reported that Boeing is working on a New Midsize Airplane (NMA) that features a single pilot cockpit. While it was initially thought that the manufacturer was going to reveal the design at the Paris Air Show, it is believed that, following the crashes of JT610 and ET302, Boeing may wait.

MSN reports that an upcoming design from Boeing could feature a single pilot cockpit craft. This latest jet – allegedly a New Midsize Airplane (NMA) – has been referred to by those in the industry as the 797.

This kind of craft is normally used for trans-Atlantic routes and can hold anywhere between 200 to 290 passengers.

According to the outlet, a note issued earlier this week by analysts at Jefferies Group, a multinational investment group, that while there would be just a single pilot in the plane’s cockpit, a second pilot would be on the ground.

It is thought that this could save carriers a considerable amount of money.

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Save carriers a considerable amount of money?

I bet the likes of Michael O'Leary will be all over this like a rash!

From pilots to pilot to no pilots at all. 


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@artmo wrote:

Boeing is working on their next project:

 

According to the outlet, a note issued earlier this week by analysts at Jefferies Group, a multinational investment group, that while there would be just a single pilot in the plane’s cockpit,

 

 

a second pilot would be on the ground.

 

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Operating the joystick on his remote control assigned to the flight,

 

in the same way as the RAF can bomb places in Afghanistan or wherever, from their "office" .......  " somewhere in England".... ( as the saying goes ! ! ! ) ..

 

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"In the same way as the RAF can bomb places in Afghanistan..."

I can just imagine it now, "you are not meant to crash the bloody thing!" 

Yeh I know, bad taste. Embarrassed


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Save carriers a considerable amount of money?

I bet the likes of Michael O'Leary will be all over this like a rash!

From pilots to pilot to no pilots at all. 


 

Why mention Michael O'Leary. AFAIK his airline has an exemplary safety record - unless you know differently.

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@artmo 

 

I made no mention of safety, only money.


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Nothing wrong in running a safe company that makes a profit. Nothing wrong in his company being financially successful.

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And who said there was?  Not me.

Are you Irish by any chance - and nothing wrong with that either. Roll_eyes


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Air regulators from 33 countries have been meeting in Texas today to hear from the FAA what Boeing is doing to improve the software and to increase pilot training to prevent further problems with the 737 Max aircraft. No date has been given when the planes will fly again.

I wonder if airlines would want to use the aircraft again and if passengers would want to fly in them.

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@artmo  Do passengers have a choice of aircraft ?   nope... only if there are several operators on the same route/destination... it is the airlines who have the choice... and it is "on their heads",.. if they make a wrong `un ...

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Mr O'Leary has been reported as suggesting that there was no need for a co-pilot (first officer in English), just a member of the cabin crew specially trained to land the plane in case the pilot became incapacitated.

Ryanair may have an exemplary safety record, but they were reprimanded a few years ago for underfuelling, i.e. having insufficient fuel on board to divert to an altenative airport and wait their turn to land should the need arise.  It was reported at the time that Ryanair had had to declare an emergency three times within a relatively short period of time as they'd run low on fuel while waiting for landing clearance after being diverted due to problems at their original destination.