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New computer for old folk!!

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New computer for old folk!!

If you are older you obviously are not expected to cope with Windows etc so a new computer with a very simple system is being produced -
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8352606.stm

not sure that everybody over 60 will want to be described as if they cannot understand things easily - and may will have used computers at work!  It would perhaps be better if they were aimed at anyone who had no experience of computers whatever regardless of age.
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pierre_pierre
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Re: New computer for old folk!!

not much else in the news either
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Re: New computer for old folk!!

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nadger
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Re: New computer for old folk!!

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not sure that everybody over 60 will want to be described as if they cannot understand things easily
Please explain in case I can't understand  Roll eyes Crazy
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Hee hee it is based on Linux Mint <a href="http://www.discount-age.co.uk/simplicity_computers/isitsecure/">clicky</a>
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The simplicity computer is powered by Eldy and runs the Linux Mint operating system

My favorite OS.
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Are these "free", or do they have to buy them?
If they have to buy them , then I think they are a waste of money, because sooner or later, the user(s) will get more confident and want to do "more" than 6 basic things on the start up screen. then they will need to buy a "proper" computer....  Undecided
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Re: New computer for old folk!!

Just looked at prices quoted
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It's not all that cheap - systems range from £299 without screen or keyboard to £525 for a complete system.

Looks like an attempt to rip off we older people  Angry
Cliff_Jordan
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Agreed. Only for people over 60 who have more money than sense Wink
As a member of the "target group" I've just quite enjoyed getting the grips with Windows 7 over the last week or so and already have a copy of Linux Mint dual booting with Windows XP on a laptop, but I have to admit, it was the only "flavour" of Linux I have ever felt comfortable with.
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Are these "free", or do they have to buy them?

Yes they have to buy them, the underlying OS is free, but the GUI they have added may not be.
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If they have to buy them , then I think they are a waste of money, because sooner or later, the user(s) will get more confident and want to do "more" than 6 basic things on the start up screen. then they will need to buy a "proper" computer....  Undecided

Well there is nothing stopping them from "reformatting" them or awakening the FULL power of Mint on them, the GUI front end is just that a front end and can be removed, just like the OS on EEE's when they came out.
On the subject of price. Training of any form in expensive, whether real human based or CBT, a real training course will cost about £400/day, based on 1->10-20 (trainer-students)
However who else is offering any kind of training oob?
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You could try this link
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/EducationAndLearning/AdultLearning/ImprovingYourSkills/DG_10037436
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Re: New computer for old folk!!

Valerie Singleton:
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She said she was shocked by the number of older people who do not have computers - a survey by the Office for National Statistics in August 2009 revealed that 6.4 million people over 65 have never used the internet.

Why? I fail to understand why it is considered detrimental for older people not to have a computer. Warmth, light and food yes, but not a computer.
I know many people who live quite happily without one and have no intention of purchasing a computer - indeed they wouldn't have one given.
However, I do agree that computers can be quite confusing and certainly dangerous if people don't understand the basics of security and are going to embark upon Internet banking/ordering goods online, so anything that makes it simpler is good.
Have read that the over 60's are the fastest growing group for new computer use and ADSL connection so the inventors must have got it right.
Linux is good for such groups but not sure about all the stuff that comes with it like partitioning, installing etc. Also, when the frequent upgrades come they don't always seem to be trouble-free so LTS would be best option IMO
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Linux is good for such groups but not sure about all the stuff that comes with it like partitioning, installing etc. Also, when the frequent upgrades come they don't always seem to be trouble-free so LTS would be best option IMO

That is why pre-installed is better. Linux is starting to make its way into the market, and if you can buy it pre-installed then you get support from the re-teller. (not necessarily the shop)
By adding this front end, they have removed all the "nasties" from computers for people who haven't used one before.
Remember before driving a car you are required to sit a test, anyone can buy a computer and not know what to do next. If there is a simple menu then perhaps it is better?
pierre_pierre
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that just like my Asus EEePC with linux, all preinstalled and running, Firefox browser, Thunderbird E-Mail, Games Open Office Complete, plus lots more on a Netbook originally less than £200, mine 4G with 3 USB, WiFi etc about £230.  tell that bloke to get stuffed  (and I am Technically over the hill)
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am surrpised cold callers get so much cash out the mature folk, reading this forum you get the sense your on to a con quicker than anne robinson and sniff a bargin out fast than my dog sniffs a joint of beef out
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You can get free courses here http://www.myguide.gov.uk/myguide/MyguideHome.do