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New Years Honours, are they outdated?

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New Years Honours, are they outdated?

Personally I think they are and no, I never got one either Wink

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Re: New Years Honours, are they outdated?

But if you HAD got one would you still think they were outdated ?

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Re: New Years Honours, are they outdated?

They should stop giving them willy-nilly to 'celebrities' and sports persons and give them to those who really do things for the benefit of their community or the country in general.

 

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Re: New Years Honours, are they outdated?

Outdated - certainly. Anachronistic I'd say.

 

I'd love to be offered one just so I can turn it down!

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In all honesty @gleneagles, I would never accept one. Cool

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Re: New Years Honours, are they outdated?

Getting an honour just means you have sucked up to the "right" people.

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Re: New Years Honours, are they outdated?

I'm sure that's the case when it comes to those civil servants and politicians getting gongs @billnotben but not for Joe Public. Still daft though, and a good indication of what side of the fence some are sitting on, and it's not mine.

 

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Re: New Years Honours, are they outdated?

But whenever Joe Public gets a gong I bet there's a civil servant or politician somewhere, that was involved in the decision making, thinking this will be for my benefit.

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Re: New Years Honours, are they outdated?

The American editor-in-chief of Vogue becomes a Dame, Mrs Cameron's stylist became an OBE when the PM resigned in the summer, Mr Alan Woodhouse, having been a volunteer with the Samaritans for nearly 57 year, is made a mere MBE.  It's nice to know the government has got its priorities right, it is of course much more important to look good than to help people who are so desperate that they want to kill themselves.

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Surely those, who have brought kudos to the country should have permanent recognition, that doesn't have a pecuniary element. They may be athletes, actors whatever, but it's not seldom that the history covers more than just the day job, but time given to unpaid work for charity and social benefit.

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Re: New Years Honours, are they outdated?

@Luzern

Go on then, don't be modest, tell us which one you got.

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Re: New Years Honours, are they outdated?

But.some it seems are more deserving than others @Luzern, and what a confusing choice - from Knighthoods to Dames along with CBEs, OBEs, MBEs..... it's quite a list and one that is devalues itself by quantity over quality and is little more than outdated and outproduced nonsense.

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@Luzern

Go on then, don't be modest, tell us which one you got.

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Re: New Years Honours, are they outdated?

Lynn Faulds Wood shows integrity and turns down MBE.

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Re: New Years Honours, are they outdated?

I suspect Ms Faulds Wood didn't actually turn down an honour, but simply diclined to let her name be put forward for one, which is not quite the same thing.

Famous people quite often don't get their honours for acting, singing, etc., but instead for their work with charities.  If you look a bit closer, however, this 'work' often amounts to no more than appearing on TV encouraging much poorer people to give to said charity.  They are often quoted as "giving up their time", but since this time would often be spent 'resting' as they call it, it can't be much of a hardship for them to turn up at an event.

You can find a form here https://www.gov.uk/honours/overview in case there is someone you want to nominate.