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New Runway for London.

Mal08
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Re: New Runway for London.

We are suffering from bad decisions in the past when they were looking to build a new third London airport.
It really should have been near Maplin with a high speed railway into London like we now have with HS1 - many cities on the continent have airports close to the coast - where many approaches or takeoffs are over water.
Heathrow should never have been allowed to expand from it;s 3 terminals - the approaches and takeoffs are largely over built up and residential areas.
By comparison - Gatwicks approaches and take off paths are over farm land - far far fewer people would be affected if the extra runway was built there - it badly needs a second runway anyway.
As usual in Britain we dither and make wrong decisions - where other nations have built far better airports and transport links - I have travelled extensively during my career and many many airports are much better than ours
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Re: New Runway for London.

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I would do anything to avoid going to Heathrow, if  I cannot fly direct from Manchester, I would rather change my destination than go to Heathrow.

Agree entirely.

1 more here. Heathrow is just not a nice experience. Very little to do there while hanging around either. Gatwick is much nicer... theres actually a few shops etc to spend time in while waiting. Heathrow is just a PITA. Plus the motorways around it always clog up.
Frankly though, I see it as stupid that we're trying to get another runway built while telling the rest of the world to watch its pollution. From my POV we should be looking at other new forms of travel.
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Re: New Runway for London.

Best airport I ever flew from was Blackpool.
No queue and no delays but unfortunately few destinations.
The landing strip faces out to sea so few problems for residents who live close to the airport but one problem for the airport was passengers checking in luggage and then returning home for a cup of tea and returning nearer the time of their flight as some houses are virtually across the road from the airport.
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Best airport I ever flew from was Blackpool.
No queue and no delays but unfortunately few destinations.

You should have tried Manston! So few customers you'd get your own security escort - for free! There were too many staff and even less travellers that you could feel like a VIP.
So naturally that had to be closed down  Roll eyes
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Last regular route I used was Jeddah Heathrow direct, then by rail into London and up the East coast main line to York and on to Scarborough. I could get to the airport in Jeddah around 7AM and would be in Scarborough around 9.30PM same day. That's the benchmark! The alternatives though Turkey, Frankfurt, Paris or Amsterdam struggled to match that. IMHO regional airports struggle for the professional traveller.

OTOH Manchester has often suited. When I travelled to Douala Cameroon the best route was Manchester to Paris CDG and Air France to Douala. Manchester also has direct flights to Lahore Pakistan.  Smiley
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Re: New Runway for London.

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1 more here. Heathrow is just not a nice experience. Very little to do there while hanging around either. Gatwick is much nicer... theres actually a few shops etc to spend time in while waiting. Heathrow is just a PITA. Plus the motorways around it always clog up.

You've obviously not used Heathrow for a good few years. Major work has been done to terminals in recent years. Plenty of shops if that's what you want and plenty of restaurants where you can eat.
Having said that I have to admit I'm not a fan of Heathrow because of the problem in getting there from where I live.
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Last time I was there was in 2012... picking up people from several of the terminals.
I stick with my original point.
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I thought terminal 5 was OK, they even had a JD Wetherspoon's by the gate. I wonder if the irony was lost on the Saudis  Grin
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@7Up,Sounds like you were working as a driver so you never used the facilities. Airside the facilities are very good
@peterLoftus, they were possibly too engrossed in getting their last drink before departure Wink.
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Last time I was there was in 2012...

Sometime in the 1990's was my last time at Heathrow, I'd flown in on Concord, then had a 4 hour wait for a connecting flight to MCR.
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Should have used a cheaper slower flight then you would not needed to wait so long.  Grin Grin
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Sometime in the 1990's was my last time at Heathrow, I'd flown in on Concord, then had a 4 hour wait for a connecting flight to MCR.

I never had the opportunity to fly Concorde. What a shame it's no longer with us. Loved to see it fly. The nearest I got was to see the one they have a Duxford.
On one occasion I saw Concorde fly over Tampa bay at Sunset. A fantastic sight Smiley Smiley
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@7Up Airside the facilities are very good

That may be so but the public side is not so good - which is the side that sees the most people I would assume (travellers, staff, drivers etc)
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If you're a driver picking up passengers it is a straightforward area but next time have a look at landside facilities after you've checked in. Very good. You have to remember there are 5 terminals at Heathrow and facilities vary in each one. Have a look at their website and you will see what's available.
Landside (or public area as you call it) is divided into 2 areas arrivals and departures.
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I don't go there now - and no longer have a passport so i won't be travelling from there either. I dislike the stress of flying / airports. Flying itself i'm fine with... i just dislike the rest of it.
I still think Gatwick is a better airport though. Stanstead is also rather pleasant to use and though it lacks things to do public side, it is easy to navigate, park, get in / out of and drive out again.
The only time i now go to an airport is to pickup / drop off family.. but i've not done that now for some years and thankfully i don't think i'll need to anytime soon.
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