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Nat Crime Agency; Is your child a coder? Then he is a suspect CYBERCRIMINAL!!

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Nat Crime Agency; Is your child a coder? Then he is a suspect CYBERCRIMINAL!!

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Cyber crime: Preventing young people from getting involved
Warning signs of cyber crime
The following behaviours may indicate a young person is at risk of getting involved in cyber crime:

  •     Is your child spending all of their time online?

  •     Are they interested in coding? Do they have independent learning material on computing?

  •     Do they have irregular sleeping patterns?

  •     Do they get an income from their online activities, do you know why and how?

  •     Are they resistant when asked what they do online

  •     Do they use the full data allowance on the home broadband?

  •     Have they become more socially isolated?


If a young person is showing some of these signs try and have a conversation with them about their online activities. This will allow you to assess their computer knowledge proficiency so you can understand what they are doing, explain the consequences of cyber crime and help them make the right choices.
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Re: Nat Crime Agency; Is your child a coder? Then he is a suspect CYBERCRIMINAL!!

Or they could just be a sufferer of asbergers.....................
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Re: Nat Crime Agency; Is your child a coder? Then he is a suspect CYBERCRIMINAL!!

Aaah Johnny did good, bless him, and I'd thought he was just looking at porn late at night.
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Re: Nat Crime Agency; Is your child a coder? Then he is a suspect CYBERCRIMINAL!!

Apart from the income and using all the bandwidth, I fit a lot of that criteria - i'm not a cyber criminal.
I think this is absurd and designed to stir up families and cause them to start spying on each other. The government has a thing about spying on people at the moment.
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Hi All
Just seen this:

That seems to be all you ever write to us these days MC - Do you not like conversation now or do you just enjoy posting conspiracies / anti anything propoganda?
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Re: Nat Crime Agency; Is your child a coder? Then he is a suspect CYBERCRIMINAL!!

From the original link - the bit that was missed out
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Things to look out for
Sadly a small minority of children will be drawn into using these skills for activities which are criminal.
Many of the signs below are just normal teenage behaviours. Taken in isolation they don't necessarily suggest a young person is at risk of getting involved in cyber crime. These are just possible indicators that your child is getting into the wrong activities. If a young person is showing several of these signs, try and have a conversation with them about their online activities. This will allow you to assess their computer knowledge proficiency so you can understand what they are doing, explain the consequences of cyber crime and help them make the right choices.
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Re: Nat Crime Agency; Is your child a coder? Then he is a suspect CYBERCRIMINAL!!

Both my grandchildren are taught coding at junior school (age 9 and 7) so where does that leave them?
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/sep/04/coding-school-computing-children-programming
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What worries me is that we're teaching kids to program computers now like their lives depend on it.
Sorry but sitting in front of a computer screen isn't going to build new infrastructure etc.
We should also be teaching them real world skills - engineering stuff for example.
When I was at school all they really wanted to teach was reading, writing and all the usual boring stuff - nothing exciting.
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when I was at school that was true as regards classes but we had some really good after school activities including stripping down and rebuilding a car engine - that was very useful indeed
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That's exactly correct 7up. It's no use giving the kids computer skills if they don't understand enough physics etc to be able to put them to practical use. Even simple stuff like coding the trajectory of a bouncing ball requires knowledge of the maths and physics behind the bounce. If they don't know that (and having been a school governor for a while I can assure you that many of them don't!) it's pointless.
Nobody in government seems to realize that, probably because there is only a handful of scientists in government.
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Engineering to most school children is the likes of changing the oil in your car engine. Very few of them realize that there is another world out there which creates jet engines and aircraft for example. They just somehow materialize out of thin air (pun?), and most teachers have no idea either.
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Yup.. and we wonder why china makes so much of our stuff now?
Its simple: Education in this country has failed for all but the few.
Previous governments have decided they don't like dirty oily machines when call centres are much cleaner and smarter looking... - eye candy.
It's pathetic that we now have to make programmes for the TV to show the few things we do still do here... that we once did on a massive scale.
This country NEEDS more technical education and development. I've said it time and time again and i will continue to do so until it happens.
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Back when I was at school, the most we ever did with computers (that is, the PCs, not the dregs-of-the-BBC-micro-era Acorns) was learn to use microsoft office '97 and 2000, rarely did we get to use them for programming things (and even then it wasn't really proper programming), and getting our hands greasy on mechanical stuff, never happened, so, yeah, heavy industry is avoided it seems these days... Roll eyes
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Nobody in government seems to realize that, probably because there is only a handful of scientists in government.

well that comes down to that old saying "those that can do, those that cant teach, if you cant teach enter politics or start begging"
teachers advise politicians about the best way to teach something and argue the subject matter experts don't understand how to teach in todays world (things have moved on since we went to school, but not In a good way) and the politicians not even being as capable as teachers listen to them and continually dumb down the education system to make it easier for the poor overburdened teachers all the while not understanding the basic principle "if a child is a blank slate and a teacher is useless you get a rubbish output"
sad but true there are a lot of youths in the country that suffered massively at the hands of union meddling with the most superior education system in the world all in the name of "progressive reforms" every time something gets changes it has gotten worse and whilst recent changes attempt to rectify that trend they screwed thousands of kids by completely changing the system in the final year of secondary education and then that was exacerbated with utterly bemusing questions about untaught subjects appearing on exam papers (which is rumoured to have been a "protest" by unhappy union members)
but even so my kids are probably more advanced in many areas of learning than I was at their age (well we didn't even get to see a computer apart from on movies until I was in secondary school)  but they don't have the understanding of whats now considered a level studies that we covered duing the first few weeks of secondary school /
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[Sip] Do you not like conversation now or do you just enjoy posting conspiracies / anti anything propoganda?

No, I have helped someone with webmail problems, plus Commented in The Lottery fred as well, and a number of others as well.