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NHS Computer to be Scrapped

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NHS Computer to be Scrapped

This is a complete scandal.  Someone should be made to take responsibility for it.  Think of how the money could have been used.
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The computer industry press particularly "Computing" have been saying for several years that the project was failing badly. The politicians were of course in denial.
The consultancies involved should be barred from future government projects.
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Re: NHS Computer to be Scrapped

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The consultancies involved should be barred from future government projects.

Along with all consultants. Consultants are just a fancy way of authorities wasting money and being able to justify it.
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Re: NHS Computer to be Scrapped

And wasn't this done on the watch of our 'prudent' chancellor Angry
pierre_pierre
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apparently no one was happy  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-15018291
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Re: NHS Computer to be Scrapped

It will be interesting to see how much money was actually wasted.  No doubt some of what was spent was needed to replace IT equipment / systems that were coming to the end of their lives anyway.
It is ridiculous that every hospital, or to some extent department within a hospital, feels entitled to do everything in its own way. So staff moving between jobs have to retrain for different procedures. I cannot imagine a major business empowering each branch to chose its own computer systems etc.
Still I suppose the logical consequence of treating hospitals as COMPETING businesses as opposed to different divisions of the same business is that this would  happen. There will be plenty of scope for bad decisions and wasted money as each hospital is empowered to do its own procurement and make its own mistakes. It's just that each individual bad decision will not be as embarrassing as one big one!
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It is ridiculous that every hospital, or to some extent department within a hospital, feels entitled to do everything in its own way. So staff moving between jobs have to retrain for different procedures. I cannot imagine a major business empowering each branch to chose its own computer systems etc.

Most hospitals will go with one of the specialist suppliers of IT systems designed for their specific use so comparability issues may not be too severe.
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needed to replace IT equipment / systems that were coming to the end of their lives anyway.

Never understood and never will understand why councils etc always seem to be changing their hardware. Word processing and databases hardly need the latest processors and fancy screens.
Or perhaps it's so they can run the latest games in their tea breaks.
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As I as said before, our local situaation is stupid
We have a one year old local PFI communiy hospital, and just across the road the old NHS outpatients department that still supplies blood tests and maturnity, they used to supply XRay.
The new Unit does not do blood test but dos do "Image Checks"
The Main hospital is also under the same Primary care as the above two
But the Local will not pass on their Images, the old unit did and my doctor could look at them, he is on the same road, all within 200 metres, the main is 10 mile away.
The Local PF! also do some minor op and endoscopy out patients, these appointments are on their computer system, but they also house some outpatients that used to be across the road.
Next problem, they cant access the main hospital outpatient appontments = not on their system
And they call it a unified NHS
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You are getting confused.  Firstly if you are referring to Broomfield it is not under PCT control. it is an acute hospital and controlled by Mid-Essex Hospital Services Trust and is currently working for foundation status which should be awarded next year.
PCTs are being disbanded by the government and many in Essex have already been absorbed into other larger trusts. Once this has been achieved many of the communication problems will be resolved. 
Heloman
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It's not just the NHS computer which has been scrapped at vast expense:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14974552
"A project to set up nine regional control centres for fire and rescue services in England was a "complete failure" and wasted £469m, MPs say."
"Mr Neill said the project was "the latest in Labour's catalogue of costly IT failures".
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"Mr Neill said the project was "the latest in Labour's catalogue of costly IT failures".

Yes another major mistake this time from stupid Prescott.  Some reports put the cost as high as £500M. He and [Censored] Brown should be hauled before Parliament to explain their actions.
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Was this just in the English & Welsh NHS trusts - or did it effect Scotland, Northern Ireland ?
We seem to have a good system up here in Scotland as I see it anyway - I have a blood test done, and within an hour or so depending on how busy the lab is - either my oncologist, their secretary or my GP can see the results on their local computer connected to the system.
I'm not sure if  this is only within an NHS trust - or across Scotland.
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I've no complaints where our local hospital is concerned. I went to my GP when I had a problem with my left hand. The GP arranged for extensive tests both at the surgery and the hospital. The results were negative in all cases, even the MRI scan. Excellent co-operation between the GP and the hospital.