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nadger
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Modern Surgery

Just been to an open day at Churchill Cancer Hospital in Oxford.
Had good look at £1million of robotic surgery. Two surgeons sit at consoles, away from patient, and can see everything in 3D.
A theatre sister was saying that younger surgeons, who've played computer games, get on better as they are used to using both hands to control movement.
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I used to use two hands to control movement and I needed both feet too 
heres a clue
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I still do...when the weather's ok
Here's my clue Wink
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You might need those surgeons if that thing gets out of control.  Wink
They frighten me and I have flown the real things at 100kts plus at 10 feet.
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They have but I am a good runner  Cool
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How?  were you playing it at the same time as controlling the helicopter?  That would take more than 2 hands.  I knew you were clever strat but did not realise you were also a contortionist.
Having said that I am not sure that I want a doctor playing computer games inside me! Shocked
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For the record, an awful lot of anatomy is taught these days using reconstructed 3D images from CT, MRI and other medical imaging devices. I won't say there is no "hands on" experience, but not nearly as much as there used to be.
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@Josie No I was doing a spot of indoor flying as it was raining outside.
What OS are these robotic scalpels running Shocked
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@Strat
Not working directly in surgery, I am not certain which OS they use in particular. In my own field (medical imaging), Unix was the preferred OS for almost every manufacturer in the 1990s. Nowadays its invariably MS Windows of some flavour. I have devices using Windows 2000 and XP Pro.
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specialist kit tends to get specialised software written for the purpose.  this will undoubtedly be a unix, or variant thereof and more often you might expect linux to be running everything in this field.  it's free and open source, so any requirements can be programmed faster and more efficiently than closed source offerings because so many programmers will freely give their services for the greater cause.
open source is now the driving force behind a wide variety of projects both community and commercial.  development using open source is an order of magnitude faster than anything a commercial outfit can offer.  everything from your toaster to your refrigerator, your central heating boiler to your kettle has embedded linux in the driver's seat.
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My information is about 5 years old - so it may have changed - but I doubt it, but switches / exchanges used for many cellular radio, CCTV systems etc do NOT use MS WIndows or any varient of Unix, but  a propriety operating system. Some of the specialised servers attached to the switches do use Unix though, usually call record storage and processing, management systems.
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Don't know what software it would be using but this was what I saw.
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I have read about operations being conducted in the US where the surgeon is in a different State to the patient.  This is a fairly common procedure there.  Did you get an idea of how many are available in this country?
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On the web I saw that over a 1,000 had been sold worldwide so I'd imagine that the major teaching hospitals would have them.
One thing that was said was that keyhole surgery doesn't reduce the operation time but does speed up recovery time so that people leave hospital sooner. Helps improve bed turnover which is good.
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Not only leave hospital earlier, but fully recover much quicker, as there hasn't been a major intrusion into the body - or so a surgeon told me......