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Malaysian Airlines Crash (MH17) near Ukraine/Russia border

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Re: Malaysian Airlines Crash near Ukraine/Russia border

I was looking at FlightRadar24.com shortly after seeing the news about the crash and there were a lot of popular airlines flying over that area.
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Per WSJ on-line
U.S. intelligence confirms surface-to-air missile fired at Malaysian jet but are divided over origin.
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And the U.S. intelligence can say that , because............. ?
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Because they are watching the news.
This will get denied by the Russians, but the Ukrainian Security Service claim to have intercepted a call between a Pro-Russian Leader and Russian General - http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/separatists-admit-downing-a-civilian-plane-in-tapped-convers...
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And the U.S. intelligence can say that , because............. ?

They probably constantly monitor heat trails left by rocket launches.
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I would imagine they have some spy satellites over the area and can see exactly where the rocket came from.
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Re: Malaysian Airlines Crash near Ukraine/Russia border

it has now been confirmed that 6 British Nationals were on board. The Foreign Office is contacting their families.
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The number of British nationals on board has gone back up to 9 in latest figures released by the airline. There is a meeting of COBRA this morning - it will be the first chaired by Phillip Hammond since his promotion this week.
Gold spiked on the international markets and the NYSE closed down last night.
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Re: Malaysian Airlines Crash (MH17) near Ukraine/Russia border

It's looking very much like it was the pro-Russian separatists using weapons provided by the Russians.  Of course, they deny it however Putin didn't bother: he said it was the Ukrainians fault because they were flying military aircraft in their country.
There simply aren't words to describe Putin.  And certainly none that could be used on here.
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There were a large number of AIDS scientists, researchers and professionals on the flight, who were heading to the international AIDS conference in Melbourne - http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/18/aids-researchers-heading-melbourne-believed-dead-mh17
They are still waiting to verify 41 nationalities of passengers on the plane.
08:47: The Buk surface-to-air missile system that pro-Russian separatists allegedly used to shoot down the Malaysian plane has been sneaked into Russia overnight, Anton Herashchenko, adviser to the Ukrainian interior minister, says on Facebook. (BBC Monitoring)
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It's looking very much like it was the pro-Russian separatists using weapons provided by the Russians.  
You can bet your bottom dollar that there are hordes of Russian "technical advisors" in there right now removing as much evidence as they can before anyone independent arrives.  Lips are sealed
Though equally the American spy satellites will be watching VERY closely.
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It seems like a lot of the Pro-Russian Separatists are actually Russian Military, who have been put in there by Moscow.
The Separatists claim that a Ukrainian fighter jet shot the Malaysian Airlines plane down and then they shot down the Ukrainian fighter jet. The problem for the Separatists is that there is zero evidence of this and it conflicts with their earlier stories.
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There was a story on Radio 4 earlier this morning that the rebels had already located the black box .. and sent it to Moscow.
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but that begs the question of why the plane would be flying so low when traversing a conflict zone when international conventions say there supposed to be at 35k feet so the ground launched missiles cant reach them ?
its all very strange and they still haven't found MH370 yet, makes you wonder if this isn't all some conspiracy to start WW3 .....

You're off your rocker!
The missiles used can reach 72k feet. The only conspiracist around here is you!
I need a new signature... i'm bored of the old one!
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a lot of the separatists were reported as being spetznaz right from day one of the Ukraine crisis, the Russians have never spent much effort to deny this so its hardly a surprise to here that there are confirmations of them working closely with the massed troops just inside the Russian boarder
just because your paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you