Lib-Dems to ban diesel cars - two face leader
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Lib-Dems to ban diesel cars - two face leader
17-05-2017 8:26 PM
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Tim Farron,,, exiting from a DIESEL POWERED BUS... says the Lib Dems will ban the sale of diesel cars..
How two faced can a party get ? With it`s leader exiting a DIESEL POWERED BUS ? ? ?
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17-05-2017 10:08 PM
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@shutter wrote:
ban the sale of diesel cars..
Just another mindless poorly thought out "sound bite".
After the next election maybe this will be big enough to transport the entire Lib Dem / "Green" party around.
Re: Lib-Dems to ban diesel cars - two face leader
17-05-2017 10:09 PM - edited 17-05-2017 10:10 PM
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Or even one of these?
Compare yourself to who you were yesterday, not who somebody else is today
Re: Lib-Dems to ban diesel cars - two face leader
17-05-2017 10:31 PM
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@billnotben wrote:
@shutter wrote:
ban the sale of diesel cars..
Just another mindless poorly thought out "sound bite".
After the next election maybe this will be big enough to transport the entire Lib Dem / "Green" party around.
Well, I would vote for them......cos they are " The Goodiess".... and all the rest are the "baddies" ! ! ...
Re: Lib-Dems to ban diesel cars - two face leader
17-05-2017 10:31 PM
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@Minivanman LMFAO
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Re: Lib-Dems to ban diesel cars - two face leader
17-05-2017 10:39 PM
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I wouldn't worry about it. What they say and what they do are 3 different things.
Re: Lib-Dems to ban diesel cars - two face leader
18-05-2017 1:05 AM
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Good job the LDs will never see power again, you know a party is desperate for votes when they play the "We'll legalise your favourite drugs" card, they tried it in canada and basically did a U-turn and were "Yeah, we're not going to do that now suckers!!"...
Re: Lib-Dems to ban diesel cars - two face leader
18-05-2017 1:09 AM
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It would have been a good gimmick to have travelled by a bus powered by hydrogen or LPG (are we sure that it was a diesel bus or are we just assuming that?) However, there is some justification for treating buses and cars differently.
Heavy vehicles and buses are said to emit 50% less NOX than the highest current standard diesel cars km for km and 90% less per litre of fuel consumed. So NOX per passenger km travelled by bus must compare very favourably with a car.
Re: Lib-Dems to ban diesel cars - two face leader
18-05-2017 10:26 AM
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Hopefully, after the Election, Theresa May will organise a Spring Clean of the House of Lords and trim the number of Lib Peers to a representative level.
Re: Lib-Dems to ban diesel cars - two face leader
18-05-2017 12:44 PM - edited 18-05-2017 1:13 PM
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@alanf I can see what motivates your analogy with "per passenger mile" comparing bus travel with car travel.... but.. if a single decker bus churns out 1 ton of gunge over a 20 mile journey.... it does so, with no passengers, and also does it when full of passengers... (which is a very rare occasion)...( except maybe at going home time in London... )
IF diesel car sales are banned... then the number of petrol driven cars will ( presumably )..increase...... thus maintaining the NOX level as at present.. or even make it worse .... bannning diesel car sales will take forever and a day to bring the numbers down on the road.... certainly will not achieve anything reasonable in the next parliamentary term...
It will not make people use public transport e.g diesel engined bus or train... therefore the "per passenger mile" comparison will be just another "non-argument" for politicians to throw out in sound bytes to make them look good..
Re: Lib-Dems to ban diesel cars - two face leader
18-05-2017 12:58 PM
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@shutter re: the last bit of your above post - do politicians ever sound good? To me, they usually sound thick, especially the current crop of careerists.
Re: Lib-Dems to ban diesel cars - two face leader
18-05-2017 1:10 PM
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My first check on a politician, see if they have had a 'proper job' and not a NABB (not another bloody barrister) and not some knob enriched from dealing in the City.
Ex student union officials (and that includes me) are also highly suspicious, as are any title holders (not me)
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