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Law says paedophile can keep images of victim

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Law says paedophile can keep images of victim

Sometimes the law is a complete ass - and this is a case in point. The police seized the abusers laptop and phone but are being prevented by the law from deleting all images of the victim before handing the laptop and phone back when the abuser is released from prison!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-dorset-26979187
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-dorset-26994240
The Dorset Police and Crime Commissioner has started an e-petition to lobby for a change to allow the police to do the sensible thing: http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/63590
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TORPC
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Re: Law says paedophile can keep images of victim

Sometimes the police / should not do as they are told by the court(s)
I for one say, the device(s) that have images of the victims should be kept for evidence & then destroyed, never to be returned (under any circumstances)
Also the perpetrator should be banned from having any device(s) that will take/ store images
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Re: Law says paedophile can keep images of victim

It's a strange do.
The images may not be illegal as such but surely as they are images of the victim they should have been handed to the victim. Or the victim should have been asked what they want to do with them.
Devonian
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Re: Law says paedophile can keep images of victim

If you don't insure/can't prove you ARE insured to drive your car, the Police can and will crush it.
If you abuse children, the police will slap your wrist and give you the pictures back.
Does anybody see anything wrong here?
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Re: Law says paedophile can keep images of victim

What's up with Dorset police? Other forces seem quite adept at 'losing' things...  Wink
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Re: Law says paedophile can keep images of victim

they don't like scum suing them for lost or damaged property it reflects badly on the police as a whole if such things happen to regularly .....

anyhow there's an e-petition that needs 100k signatures to get the law changed on this one
https://submissions.epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/63590
I signed it already I hope everyone else does too
just because your paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you
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Re: Law says paedophile can keep images of victim

Present status http://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/11144636.Attorney_General_to_investigate_case_of_paedophile_wh...
Note that there is no rush as he won't get them back until he leaves prison - he got 9 years so at least 4 years to go
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Re: Law says paedophile can keep images of victim

Signed too.
The law IS an ass at times and needs changing as needs of society changes.
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Re: Law says paedophile can keep images of victim

Signed.
@Oldjim Unfortunately the laptop will just be placed into his prison property store, so he will have it the day he is released. 
nanotm
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Re: Law says paedophile can keep images of victim

and no doubt he will be out in 2 years for good behaviour, if he finds religion as well then probably out in 18 months....what's worse is if he qualifies for it then his laptop will be given to him for "educational use" whilst he is in prison ...........
only the mobile will be withheld until the day of his release...

what should happen is all such items should be reset to factory defaults and then sold via police auctions to further fund crime fighting efforts !
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Success http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-dorset-27126910
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Dorset Police are to delete images of an abuse victim from a paedophile's laptop computer after previously saying the move was "unlawful".
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Re: Law says paedophile can keep images of victim

Someone must have given them a good injection of common sense.
Still makes you wonder what on earth is going through the heads of those in charge.
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Re: Law says paedophile can keep images of victim

Sadly common sense can get you into a lot of trouble these days.
A Magistrates signature should be all that's required to give police the permission to delete these files.
I always thought that any equipment used in a crime could be confiscated  by the police, so does this not apply in this case ?
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Re: Law says paedophile can keep images of victim

I don't think the laptop was used in the crime as the images were just normal pictures and nothing on the laptop was related to the offence
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Re: Law says paedophile can keep images of victim

If they are just normal pictures and no one in those pictures formally objects to them it's understandable the police had no power to confiscate it.
The headline implies there was something on the Laptop ie his daughter but does not state these were illegal photographs.