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Labour Leadership

The ballot papers have gone out and the early votes have started to come in. So who is going to be the next Labour leader?
There is certainly a concerted effort being made to prevent Jeremy Corbyn from winning but will he succeed?
The decision will be announced on 12th September.
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The various right wing papers all seem to say Corbyn will make Labour unelectable
So
Are they correct
or
Are they trying to stop him by frightening the voters as he would give the Tories some real opposition
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I think the Tories would be pleased to have Corbyn as Labour leader. It would make their chances of re-election in  2020 better.
Also let's not forget there is also an election for the deputy leadership. The mottle crew in the race are: Ben Bradshaw, Stella Creasy, Tom Watson, Angela Eagle and Caroline Flint.
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Peronally I couldn't care less. They sold us all down the river many years ago.
Tony Blair is still one defiant ***s pot who apparently thinks the general public can't vote in their best interest. Greedy Gordon was just as bad and seemed to think that we were all inferior dirt.
Oh yes.. and then the Lib Dems decided to sell us down the river too - or at least the younger generations - which of course lost them a lot of respect amongst young AND old who were then expected to pick up the bill to stop their younger family members getting into debt.
The entire political system stinks at present. They're all a disgrace and should all be flushed out. Every last single one of them.
The tories.. don't get me started. The only thing they have going for them is that we can all trust them to do the right thing.. where getting rich and driving the rest of us into desperate measures is concerned at least. Just look at IDS.. multimillionaire that begrudges the poor a few quid a week to live on.
It's a broken and sick system.
Sorry for the rant... believe me i'm bored with it myself but it has to be said.
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They're such a motley bunch, even Neil Kinnock would look good.
Well maybe not.
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Chris Choi from ITV news tweeted this earlier today:

I have to wonder what sort of world these people live in. These are private companies operating our railways for profit.. profit which was never a concern until privatisation.
And before anyone slams BR for their sins, they did a hell of a job on a shoestring budget - without the taxpayer subsidising them like these cowboys today.
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Corbyn seems to be the only potential leader with any policies, the Nationalization of the rail network I'd agree with.
If I were running for the Labour Leadership, don't think I'd want to have Blair and Brown on my side.
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Quite likely Corbyn will win and that will be the final nail in the coffin for Labour party as they will never recover from it, we may even see a breakaway party forming from Labour party members to form another party.
With no opposition to the Tory government anything goes so if you are not well off you are in for a tough time over the next 10 and possibly 15 years.
Already we have seen several promises ditched within days of the Tories gaining power, the financial limits to the elderly going into care has been put back to 2020 and unlikely to ever become policy, rail development to create a , 'power house' in the north has been seen to be to expensive yet we can spend millions on other things which I will not list as the post will be deleted but which we are all aware of and highlighted in other posts.
In short 7up what you say is correct, nothing is ever likely to change in my lifetime but being younger than me you might get lucky, there is always hope.
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Corbyn's policies seem to be based on borrowing till the whole country is bankrupt. For that reason I couldn't possibly support him.
On the other hand he seems to say what he thinks and  believes what he says, which makes him about the only honest politician I can think of at the moment.
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Corbyn seems to be the only potential leader with any policies, the Nationalization of the rail network I'd agree with.
If I were running for the Labour Leadership, don't think I'd want to have Blair and Brown on my side.

Problem with most of the Nationalised companies is that they cannot compare to private companies in terms of service or progress.
As one example take BT when I was a lad it took 6 months to get a phone and it could be any colour providing it was Black today you can have a phone in almost any shape or colour and not have to wait 6 months for a line.
Another example is dock workers, now we use containers things are transported more cheaply and quicker.
Hard to think of any service that runs better or more efficiently when nationalised compared to when it is run privately.
On a more wider scale compare the state East Germany was in when the wall came down to that of West Germany.
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Corbyn's policies seem to be based on borrowing till the whole country is bankrupt. For that reason I couldn't possibly support him.
On the other hand he seems to say what he thinks and  believes what he says, which makes him about the only honest politician I can think of at the moment.
And don't forget a number of women see him as a sex symbol, so there is hope for me yet !

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Hard to think of any service that runs better or more efficiently when nationalised compared to when it is run privately

Except the first thing, in most cases, done when privatised is to sell off "surplus" assets usually land. Money for nothing.
Then a few years later lament that prices will need to rise to cover the cost of buying land to cover "unforeseen" growth and demand.
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Hard to think of any service that runs better or more efficiently when nationalised compared to when it is run privately.
On a more wider scale compare the state East Germany was in when the wall came down to that of West Germany.

Another good example of privatisation working is British Airways. Now one of the leading airlines in the world.
When I listen to Corbyn I remember something Margaret Thatcher said, "The trouble with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money"
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Hard to think of any service that runs better or more efficiently when nationalised compared to when it is run privately

Except the first thing, in most cases, done when privatised is to sell off "surplus" assets usually land. Money for nothing.
Then a few years later lament that prices will need to rise to cover the cost of buying land to cover "unforeseen" growth and demand.

Plus the fares going up to pay for shareholders profits. I suspect one particular member on this forum would strongly support that.. at the cost of other people  Roll eyes
Anyhow, why on earth should something the tax payers keep paying for be paying vast profits to private companies?
Politicians of all sides are responsible for the mess we're all in at the moment. As gleneagles says, with no real opposition to the conservatives at the moment we're all in for a rough ride if we're not rich or chummy with them.
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"The trouble with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money"

And the trouble with conservatism is you eventually run out of things to sell off... Grin