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James Bond.

Anyone else starting to feel disappointed by the current direction of James Bond?

 

Sean Connery was a bit annoying.. Timothy Dalton should have starred in more films, Roger Moore was excellent. Pierce Brosnan seemed to revive it from a slumber and it was business as usual. The cars, the gadgets, Q, M, MoneyPenny, the bad guys...

Then along came something radical. Daniel Craig. Not quite as happy as the previous ones, in fact I struggle to sense any optimism from him at all. No puns, no charm but just a character that always appears to be a troubled bad boy who goes to sort out personal vendettas all the time while dragging the security service into them.

The downfall seemed to come about with Casino Royale. The most boring of them all IMO. Also the demise of Desmond Llwelyn as Q who was then replaced by John Cheese.

Now in Skyfall something totally rotten came about. Q branch was completely decimated by a young whizz kid who can barely cook beans on toast but loves his computers and algorithms at the expense of all the super high tech hardware such as cloaking cars with missile launchers. Whizz (or shall we just call him W as Q doesn't seem fitting) seems to think that going back to the very old school basics like a radio beacon is enough to get the job done and being able to access multiple computer systems will save Bond in action. On top of that the HQ comes under attack which was rather heartless on the writers part.

Now tonight I've tuned into ITV2 part way through Spectre. Okay I thinks.. I'll give it one more shot before i completely give up on JB. It was yet another personal mission for Bond as always but it was quirky and confusing. QW seems to suddenly have a liking for hardware again in one scene where he seems to be sitting in a room / lab / bunker by himself surrounded by all sorts of gizmos.. none of which really live up to the previous ones but its still better than skyfalls Q branch. In fact can we even call it branch now? It seems more like Q-Express / desk than a specialist branch. Anyhow if I quit moaning about Q and the confusion Bond ends up in some super pimped up looking motor that then seems to have toggle switches bolted onto the dashboard for basic junk like flame throwers and an ejection seat. Surely we should by now be seeing voice control (which at least his phone had) or something else super cool... but toggle switches? Did QWhizzie nick them from Dr No? Yet apparently the car was a £3 million prototype and it didn't even come with ammo for the rear weapons? £3 million and the best that could be used was toggle switches? Seriously?

So whats happened to Q branch?

Whats happened to the charisma that Bond always had?

My final gripe is the destruction of MI6 HQ. Why? Just why did the writers feel the need to do this to us? It's been Bonds HQ for moons and one that we've all become accustomed to with fond memories of the original Q, gizmos, intelligence (eg golden eye and the sattellite live feeds) etc. Now all that seems to exist is a few old underground bunkers, tunnels and a shell. What a miserable experience and then it gets blown to bits! Awful.. just awful. Now I'm not the most patriotic of people, heck there are things I despise about this country but blowing up MI6 for the sake of a film is utterly wrong - even if they're not so exciting in real life.

I just hope this isn't based on real life cost cutting to our real life security services...

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Minivanman
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Why do I get the feeling that we are about to see a female Bond, or will they cut to the chase and go straight to transgender.

Who owns the franchise now anyway?

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The other night I was having a trekkie-esque dream and saw a poster on a wall that was depicting "James Doohan - 004" (Because Scotty multiplied his repair estimates by a factor of 4!) in a James Bond type of pose, and I woke myself up laughing myself silly because of it... Funny

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@twocvbloke

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Re: James Bond.

Next Rowan Atkinson as Bond.

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Well he's already done a pastiche of Bond with his Johnny English so yeah, why not. Cool  

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The PC brigade will be pushing for a Bollywood James Bond Shocked

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Like everything, all those gizzmo';s etc. have been cut back due to government non-funding.  Roll eyes

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The Bond franchise is [-Censored-]s.

 

A relic that should of been put out it's misery in the '80s

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Not my sort of thing, the only one that sticks in my memory (and the only one I actually went to the cinema to watch) was Goldfinger - and that was over fifty years ago...... Blimey.

Still popular of course as those multi million dollar box office receipts prove.

Some [-Censored-] eh?

 

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As we keep seeing, just because something's popular, doesn't mean it's any good. 

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Perhaps it's like many films or series, the first one is good so that sets the standard the follow up in some cases can be even better but a point is reached where they should call it a day but like most things it's about money and the audience the film is targeted at.

At least with the bond films there is plenty of action, far to many films have scenes which are imo totally irrelevant and seem to be added just to pad the film out.

Personally I find DC in the bond films to be ok, I think he once said it was the last time he would play the role but was tempted back by a offer he could not refuse.

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I lost interest in Bond when the real stunts took a back seat to the CGI.

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Ever tried reading the James Bond books? Ian Flemings Bond wasn't exactly a bundle of fun or drool humour.

So who was nearest the books:

Allowing that the books (most written in the 1930's) were never as action packed as the movies, but there's poetic licence for you.

David Niven: (the very first in the first Casino Royale) er! no not at all.

Sean Connery: pretty close. But probably if anything not suave enough, couldn't he be ham in the earlier ones though. To me always appeared if he's reading his lines just before the camera rolled.

Roger Moore: Oh please!! James Bond? I don't think so (remember we're comparing with the books)

George Lazenby: Thought by many as the nearest to the book persona. Pity about his acting ability.

Timothy Dalton:  He's another one who didn't really look as if he knew what he was doing.

Pierce Brosnan: (personal favourite) regarded by many as the best of Bonds, also book like.

Daniel Craig: Good (probably the best) in the action shots, but was (is) he like Fleming's Bond... well sort of.

So who's next? I have no information at all to base this on, but it wouldn't surprise me to see Ore Oduba in the role. He's certainly popular enough these day's.

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@DaveyH

'As we keep seeing, just because something's popular, doesn't mean it's any good'. 

Indeed not, take Star Wars for instance but one mans good is another mans bad.

My big disappointment is when they follow up an original with rubbish as they did with Alien and Cocoon, both excellent films and both followed by garbage but still, at least they never made another Sound of Music. Thumbs Up

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