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Islands in the Stream...

Well, one island  - in the English Channel.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2250680/Beckett-Rankine--40billion-airport-London--middle-Ch...
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Engineers unveiled the proposals for a four runway airport, which would ease pressure on the South East's overburdened runways, on a man-made island 1.8 miles off the coast of Kent on underwater banks known as Goodwin Sands.

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No homes will have to be demolished and developers say there would be no concerns of damage to conservation or wildlife.
Beckett Rankine director Tim Beckett  said the proposal was the most 'sustainable solution' yet to be put forward.

Excusing the pun but can anyone see this taking off?

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From Wikipedia
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Potential airport site
The August 1969 issue of Dock and Harbour Authority magazine carried an article 'A National Roadstead' which reported on a 1968 proposal to the Ministry of Transport for construction of a deep water port on the reclaimed Goodwin Sands. In 1985 consultants Sir Bruce White Wolfe Barry and Partners promoted a proposal for developing an International Freeport combined with a two runway airport located on three reclaimed islands on the sands.[19] In 2003, the idea was still under consideration.[20] Being far from residential areas it has the advantage of 24 hour-a-day take-offs and landings without causing disturbance.
In December 2012, the site of Goodwin Sands was once again promoted as a potential location for a controversial £39 billion 24-hour airport to become the UK's hub airport.[21] Engineering firm Beckett Rankine believes the location to be the 'most sustainable solution' with the 'least adverse impact' to the highly contentious aviation expansion issue in the South East.

Not a new idea then.... 44 years in the melting pot....  Roll eyes
Will need SOME infrastructure to get the passengers to London very quickly.... Not a lot of point in flying in from (say) Rome, in 2 hours, and then taking 4 hours to get to London Central.... !
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Re: Islands in the Stream...

Any new Airport needs to be a complete replacement for Heathrow, so closing Heathrow. The new Airport needs to be a Hub, so people can fly in and connect to their intended long-haul flight, without the need to say transfer to Gatwick or Stanstead, this would probably mean they need to collect their bags and re-check them, which would be unacceptable.
There would need to be quite some improvement in road and rail connections to get people living West of London to the new Hub. Agreed something radical and expensive like this needs to be done though, Heathrow has no more room to grow. Or consider some compulsory purchase of the entire Slough or Staines area!
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Re: Islands in the Stream...

be amusing if a huge new airport were built and flying went out of fashion.
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The lack of progress on a new airport is having a negative effect on our economy and an urgent decision is needed.  We are losing business to Europe at present and action is needed.
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I live under the flight path for Heathrow and have flown a lot as part of business. Personally I hate fly to/from Heathrow, not because of the congestion in the airport but because of the awful transport to/from the airport. Rather than expand Heathrow as the lobbyist community would have you believe it would be better to expand the other local airports like Gatwick and Stanstead and invest in transport infrastructure serving those places. Building on the Goodwin Sands is utter folly
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So you are encouraging people to have to make connections between Heathrow, Gatwick and Stanstead. People would have to queue to collect and carry their bags to each place, and queue again to have them checked in again, each time more staff employed to scan the bags, the cost of this transport between terminals would be added to their airfare or paid seperately? This all sounds like it just added 90 minutes to the layover and £100 to the cost of the journey. This is really the best option?
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Re: Islands in the Stream...

Could there be some problem with birds if it was built there ?
A Few planes have been brought down due to bird strikes in their path.
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In the long term a new airport is needed and plans have to be established asap for this. However, we cannot just wait for this to happen. In the short term the only  solution is an extra runway at Heathrow. 
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So you are encouraging people to have to make connections between Heathrow, Gatwick and Stanstead. ...

Not all people coming to London swap flights.
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Be interested to know what percentage of inbound London passengers are
a) destination London
b) destination other UK airports
c) destination Europe and
d) destination outside Europe.
Often thought that the BA merger with Iberia and possibly AA was with the intent of creating a "mega European Hub" in Madrid, thus by-passing Heathrow as a hub.
If C) and D) above amounted to 30-40% of the total traffic, and that traffic could be diverted to say Madrid, would there be a need for extra runways.
Do 'hub' passengers (in and out of London) add anything major to the UK economy?
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That question strikes at the key issue. Are the airports there to serve the UK public or are they just there (and needing expansion) to support the growth of the Airline companies?  The Airlines spend a great deal of money and effort on lobbying.
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Not all people coming to London swap flights.

No but many many do, which is why Heathrow is such a success due to it being a Hub from which people can quickly connect with a long-haul flight.
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Heathrow has reached capacity and we are losing business to Europe.  We do not have sufficient flights to South America, China etc and no chance to expand.