I never would of guessed
Sorry to have to bring this up in the forum BUT I HAVE to .
My language is English. It is my native tongue.
Therefore I cringe when I see it desecrated.
I cannot suffer a moment longer the agony of seeing "I would of".......
Please, would all members who contribute to this forum refrain from typing "I would of" instead of what English Language speakers (who were in school , post 1980, because this is when our education establishments started to forget how to teach english) "I would have"
Is it because when you say " I would've" that you write 'would of', not having been taught any better
Please, from now on, be taught that you are really saying "I would have" and you can then join the respected English language speakers and writers.
I make no apologies for this rant...
My language is English. It is my native tongue.
Therefore I cringe when I see it desecrated.
I cannot suffer a moment longer the agony of seeing "I would of".......
Please, would all members who contribute to this forum refrain from typing "I would of" instead of what English Language speakers (who were in school , post 1980, because this is when our education establishments started to forget how to teach english) "I would have"
Is it because when you say " I would've" that you write 'would of', not having been taught any better
Please, from now on, be taught that you are really saying "I would have" and you can then join the respected English language speakers and writers.
I make no apologies for this rant...
I'm Welsh, am I exempt? 
What - from the respected English language speakers and writers?
Not exempt - excluded.
*runs like hell from the expected Celtic backlash*
Not exempt - excluded.
*runs like hell from the expected Celtic backlash*
Quote from: dgwebb I'm Welsh, am I exempt?
I will forgive you, Dai .....but if you speak OUR language instead of your own welsh, no exemption is allowed...
Well, well, Steve.
Looks as if I touched a nerve there!
Seems that you are not a lover of the Queen's english ,then ?
So you are saying that every time a teacher helps you to correct your grammar, he is insulting you?
I think not.
He is helping you to be proud of your heritage.
Looks as if I touched a nerve there!
Seems that you are not a lover of the Queen's english ,then ?
So you are saying that every time a teacher helps you to correct your grammar, he is insulting you
?I think not.
He is helping you to be proud of your heritage.
I'm with community on this one – ‘would of’ makes me cringe every time I read it, not least because it's so unashamedly common these days. It suggests to me a fundamental misunderstanding of a basic element of the language so I think it's justifiable to correct it when necessary (I'm looking at you, Matt_2k34 
). English is such a wonderful language – let's not spoil it unduly.
). English is such a wonderful language – let's not spoil it unduly.
Quote from: community
Quote from: dgwebb I'm Welsh, am I exempt?
I will forgive you, Dai .....but if you speak OUR language instead of your own welsh, no exemption is allowed...
Well........ historically the original language of England is Briton/Brythonic which was eventually overtaken by that English language, so technically, our language is Welsh, which is what Briton currently is
I therefore demand every word in this forum begin with Ll and end with dd and have yy in the middle 
Quote from: dgwebb Well........ historically the original language of England is Briton/Brythonic which was eventually overtaken by that English language, so technically, our language is Welsh, which is what Briton currently is
I'm not an expert on the history of the English language but I've been reading Mother Tongue by Bill Bryson and I don't recall any mention of what you've just said. It's a worthwhile read by the way for anyone interested in how our language came to be the way it is today.
You my dear friend are not my teacher though are you? Also i meant this as what Piere-Pierre has kindly pointed out in his post if you would like to read it.
Quote from: community Well, well, Steve.
Looks as if I touched a nerve there!
Seems that you are not a lover of the Queen's english ,then ?
So you are saying that every time a teacher helps you to correct your grammar, he is insulting you
I think not.
He is helping you to be proud of your heritage.
One shall soon need to take elocution lessons so that one might
post into this forum
You're going to make me have to type now *grabs Welsh dictionary*
"Most of the languages of Europe, and some of the languages of Asia, can be traced back to a common ancestor to which the name Indo-European is a commonly given. From this ancestor were derived a dozen or so branches, one of which is called Celtic......... In the meantime people speaking different forms of Celtic has crossed over from the Continent to the British Isles. One group established itself in Ireland. This is known as the Goidelic or Gaelic group, and from it descended the Irish language, which spread from Ireland to the Isle of Man, developing later to Manx, and also to Scotland, eventually becoming Scottish Gaelic. The other group prevailed in Britain and the language is called British or Brythonic or Brittonic. Prior to the Roman Conquest this language was spoken throughout what later became England, Wales and southern Scotland. It was from this descendant of the original Common Celtic language that ultimately sprang the Welsh, Cornish and Breton languages."
We were all speaking Welsh (Celtic) before the Roman invasion, so our original language (our being England/Wales) is Welsh
"Most of the languages of Europe, and some of the languages of Asia, can be traced back to a common ancestor to which the name Indo-European is a commonly given. From this ancestor were derived a dozen or so branches, one of which is called Celtic......... In the meantime people speaking different forms of Celtic has crossed over from the Continent to the British Isles. One group established itself in Ireland. This is known as the Goidelic or Gaelic group, and from it descended the Irish language, which spread from Ireland to the Isle of Man, developing later to Manx, and also to Scotland, eventually becoming Scottish Gaelic. The other group prevailed in Britain and the language is called British or Brythonic or Brittonic. Prior to the Roman Conquest this language was spoken throughout what later became England, Wales and southern Scotland. It was from this descendant of the original Common Celtic language that ultimately sprang the Welsh, Cornish and Breton languages."
We were all speaking Welsh (Celtic) before the Roman invasion, so our original language (our being England/Wales) is Welsh