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Human Rights Act Getting Scrapped

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Human Rights Act Getting Scrapped

The scrapping of the human rights act, a pledge included in the Tory manifesto, is one of the measures to be included in the prime minister’s plans for the first 100 days, when the Queen’s speech is delivered on 27th of May.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/may/10/michael-gove-to-proceed-with-tories-plans-to-scrap-h...
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with the lib dems out the way this was predictable.
Before anyone says this is great, bear in mind the excuse it only helps terrorists and criminals is nonsense, this will affect innocent vulnerable people.
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I am not sure if it will actually happen given the substantial anti government majority in the House of Lords
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They'll be a few lawyers jumping up and down in protest Wink

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they can pass it with the parliament act, which seems to be the norm these days..
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really there was a white paper pushed out in 2013 discussing the proposed changes to the HRA, it largely boiled down to reverting to the old system of Prisoners Rights and implementing a couple of the other optional exemptions that the Blair administration neglected to utilise which left the UK with and unworkable system that favoured those of ill repute over the good and law abiding majority.
so yes the HRA would be repealed but likely that would happen as part of the introduction of its direct replacement and far less likely to be anything other than a tightening of the current cash cow rules surrounding the farce that it has been since the inception of the HRA in its current unworkable form.
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They made some mistakes with the Human Rights Act leading to unintended consequences. I'd imagine any replacement would be largely based on current legislation with the kinks ironed out.
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That Gove fella has forgot about the Good Friday agreement.
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Most reasonable people would agree that changes need to be made but you can bet some clever legal eagles will make out the wording could be interpreted in more than one way.
It's like the number of rich people who were able to get off speeding fines due to some clever lawyer being able to show that some wording or procedure was not followed correctly, an opportunity not available to the average person.
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That Gove fella has forgot about the Good Friday agreement.

What does the second greatest atrocity in the history of the troubles have to do with anything ?
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which has zero effect on the laws of the rest of the UK, hell Scotland and NI can keep the damn thing as their MP's /tinpot committees no doubt will do that's a devolved are of responsibility already, that however has zero impact upon England or wales from changing it, nor does it have any bearing on cases where the legal responsibility is UK law as that will always come from Westminster and be applicable to cases tried "in the mainland" also known as England /
lots of moaning about a few tweaks here n there to get rid of clauses we should never have implemented into law as they contradict each other and prevent legal statutes and frameworks from being pursued on the grounds that it disposes the rights of the criminal that they would otherwise have had if the state didn't catch them out being a criminal type and hands them a get out of jail free card for every one who has the nouce to hire a decent barrister that's conversant with the HRA, the legal firm owned by tony blair and his wife made millions writing the HRA in such a way as to give htem an income stream for life, since its inception they have made hundreds of millions a year fighting on behalf of criminals often at the expense of normal people who are found to have breached some scumbags criminal rights to pursue his /her chosen enterprise despite it being deemd an illegal occupation .....
if there is one thing above all others that blair should be indicted for it is the HRA and the cashback scam he paid his own firm for drawing it up, compared to the cost to the UK tax payer the HRA has cost more than Iraq and afgan put together both in terms of cash spent and the wrecking of lives it has wrought, a single individual used the HRA to spend 12 years in England arguing that he couldn't be deported as it would be unfair to him, during that time he created a family and then used them to complain under the HRA until he finally said "aight i'll leave" and then he was finally granted a deportation and don't come back you scumbag order ......that single individual cost the UK taxpayer an average of 50 million a year in combinations of legal fees (because he had legal aid) state aid /protection /tail teams and of course the prosecution costs.....
that's 1 guy and unfortunately there wasn't one guy there were thousands all doing exactly the same thing that costs hundreds of billions .....
the next thing they did was repeal the death penalty as part of the HRA, yet the same ECHR that came up with the combined framework for the protection of the individual also still has the death penalty on its list of punishments for war crimes .....
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Well it seems the Scottish Government will “not consent” to the Conservative Government’s plans to scrap the Human Rights Act.
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Nicola Sturgeon has  voiced her opposition to the plans: “I oppose the repeal of the Human Rights Act, I think it’s an appalling thing to be doing” she said. “Human rights are there to protect all of us, for example it was the Human Rights Act that enabled people to go to court to object against the ‘bedroom tax’.
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she also said she wouldn't consent to them granting Scotland full fiscal autonomy unles it was implemented on over a protracted period
she appears more and more to be a gobby bint that takes more from the electorate than her entire party gives back,
here's hoping the Pro SNP disidents continue the thuggish behaviour so they can get disbanded and chucked in jail for promoting civil disobedience and public disorder, then perhaps with the head cut off the snake the corruption in Scottish politics can be brought to an end or will the news be further mired with increasing numbers of scandals about how the cash chasing scum at the top keep voting for pay rises while cutting benefits and blaming the tories while they loose individuals to cash for contracts scandals ad infinitum .....
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Are you in favour of humans having rights - or not?