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Hong Kong burns haul of tusks in bid to stop the poachers

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Hong Kong burns haul of tusks in bid to stop the poachers

Bonfire of the ivories:
Hong Kong burns haul of tusks in bid to stop the poachers
A stockpile of nearly 30-tonnes of confiscated ivory is being incinerated in Hong Kong as officials crack down on an illegal wildlife trade devastating Africa's elephant population.
http://www.scmp.com/comment/insight-opinion/article/1513053/incineration-shows-hong-kong-serious-abo...
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/hong-kong-burns-massive-ivory-stockpile-100-elephants-day-butchered-by-poac...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2629242/Bonfire-ivories-Hong-Kong-burns-haul-tusks-bid-stop-...
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Re: Hong Kong burns haul of tusks in bid to stop the poachers

The act of burning the ivory, is a huge publicity stunt, very reminiscent of  "Closing the Stable Door... after the horse has bolted "....
The act of burning the ivory does not stop poachers killing the animals......
The act of burning the ivory does not bring those dead animals back to life.....
The act of burning the ivory does ..............NOTHING... except make room for more "illegal" ivory to be stored, when it is confiscated.... ready for the next bonfire.....
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Re: Hong Kong burns haul of tusks in bid to stop the poachers

Just imagine how much this has pushed the price of ivory up.
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Re: Hong Kong burns haul of tusks in bid to stop the poachers

indeed all the capture and burning does is push the price up making it even more lucrative for the poachers ..........
what they should of done is burned every single person associated with the haul, that would have a positive effect on discouraging poachers, particularly if other nation states followed suit and also executed with extreme prejudice anyone guilty (by virtue of being caught at it) of poaching or shipping /storing the illegal goads from poaching......
for centauries poachers were considered worse than thieves because a thief only steals from one person at a time but a poacher steals from everyone who needs the animals there stealing, as such there punishments were always death rather than loosing a limb ....and since the world got "nicer" problems like poaching have become far more problematic.....
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Re: Hong Kong burns haul of tusks in bid to stop the poachers

What else were they supposed to do with it? It is illegal to sell modern ivory. If there was a legal modern ivory trade then there would be no certain way of distinguishing legal ivory products from illegal ones.
This is a different issue to the sometimes proposed destruction of historic ivory artefacts.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2561656/From-maharajahs-throne-George-IVs-duelling-sword-tre...
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Re: Hong Kong burns haul of tusks in bid to stop the poachers

some modern ivory is still legal to trade.....
that's the whole problem in a nutshell

Kenya has a zero tolerance policy but there the only country that does
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Re: Hong Kong burns haul of tusks in bid to stop the poachers

Would Hong Kong have the same zero tolerance to smuggled gold and precious stones?
Would they destroy them too?
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Re: Hong Kong burns haul of tusks in bid to stop the poachers

i hate when these idiots do this.  it means that all those elephants really did die for nothing; nothing at all.
if elephants, rhinos, tigers and other endangered species are to be properly protected it is necessary that people 'ride herd' on them, i.e. follow them around and shoot to kill any poachers.  governments can afford to pay nomadic peoples to do this, but, of course, that's too sensible an option to adopt.
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Re: Hong Kong burns haul of tusks in bid to stop the poachers

first they would need to stop selling hunting licences for "big game" and stop allowing the production of "trophy's" that can legally be traded and shipped around the world complete with ivory.......
add that the misguided concept that a shoot to kill policy on poaching is the same as legalised murder (which various wildlife charities are saying) and you get all kinds of problems, they spend weeks every year arguing the toss on this at the UN wildlife meetings and still cant get a consensus on the one hand they offer international funding for there protection and on the other they withdraw it for the poacher killing policy ......utterly stupid
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Re: Hong Kong burns haul of tusks in bid to stop the poachers

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i hate when these idiots do this.  it means that all those elephants really did die for nothing; nothing at all.

So dammed true.  What would have been more sensible would have to have used that ivory to flood the market with it, thereby depressing the price / value of the stuff to make it no longer worth while killing and poaching in the first place.