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Health & Safety

Why do the rules on health & Safety not apply to passenger safety on the Railways ?
It's not uncommon to see commuters standing and packed like sardines whilst trains are travelling at 70 MPH +
Imagine the outcome in a train crash.
Are companies not legally liable to take appropriate action to make a reasonable effort to safeguard their consumers ?
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pierre_pierre
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Re: Health & Safety

How about standing in Stage Buses?
http://www.oxfordbus.co.uk/main.php?page_id=40
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3. STANDING PASSENGERS
The number of standing passengers permitted on each type of vehicle is clearly displayed inside each vehicle (there are no standing passengers allowed on airline or oxford espress coaches). Standing passengers must not stand in the front door-well area, upstairs or on the stairs of double-deckers, or near any emergency exit. Standing passengers MUST hold onto a hand pole or seat back at all times whilst standing onboard.Standing passengers are advised to occupy a seat as soon as one becomes available.
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Re: Health & Safety

Also true.
I was tempted to mention seat belts on buses but once on this topic you could go on for ever
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Re: Health & Safety

I'll keep it short then. My regular coach is fitted with passenger seat belts (I don't have one) but, were added as a retro-fit, so fall into exactly the same rules as cars registered before seat belt wearing became lawful and fitted later...the is no compunction to use them. seat belts are only obligatory if they were factory fitted after the legal wearing date.
As a consequence. My passengers have the choice to use them or not. When I'm carrying junior school children the escorting teachers usually insist they are used but, it is their responsibility to see they are done-up not mine (I do of course check with the escorts) I very occasionally drive a later coach with factory fitted belts, then it becomes my responsibility.
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Re: Health & Safety

I suspect the railway byelaws have been amended to legalise it.
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198kHz
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Re: Health & Safety

I suspect the railway byelaws define 'people' as 'cattle'.
Not young enough to know everything
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Re: Health & Safety

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I suspect the railway byelaws define 'people' as 'cattle'.

Same as Ryanair then
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Re: Health & Safety

I suspect that it is more profitable to run the present rolling stock, to <  FULL  > capacity, and only slightly risky to have to pay out compensation in case of serious accident to one train load of passengers per million carried.... compared to ....
paying for more rolling stock to make longer trains,......
run more trains during the period (thus more charges collected by network rail).....
contributing to the cost of legthening platforms to accommodate the longer trains.....
Just because you have a "ticket to ride" ..... does not mean you have a "ticket to seat"...
tinto
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Re: Health & Safety

565 mentioned Ryanair