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Gobbledegook Banned

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Gobbledegook Banned

The Local Government Association has produced a guide to ban over 200 phrases so that we can understand that they are saying:
http://tinyurl.com/dfxzln
......and about time too Wink


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Re: Gobbledegook Banned

Yeah forwarded that list round work trying to get them banned, sadly no chance  Sad
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That's abbreviations, Pierre.  Slightly different. Wink
At a meeting some years ago the chairman announced that he didn't want to hear any more TLAs.  We all looked blankly until he explained he meant 'Three Letter Abbreviations'.  Smiley
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Re: Gobbledegook Banned

I had a quick look.  Most of these seem to be Americanisms, that have crept in to "business speak" via overpaid consultants.  Huh
I don't believe they're limited to government.
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Re: Gobbledegook Banned

Quote from: artmo
That's abbreviations, Pierre.  Slightly different. Wink

I think you mean acronyms  Cool
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I think you mean acronyms  Cool

SDI  Cool
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Re: Gobbledegook Banned

He doesn't; an acronym is - and only is - when a whole new word is formed. Thus, for example, 'laser' is an acronym, but 'RSPCA' isn't.
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Re: Gobbledegook Banned

Nevertheless - TLA = Three Letter Acronym
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Re: Gobbledegook Banned

Not necessarily - it could really mean, as artmo demonstrated, 'three letter abbreviation'. Only, not many people understand the distinction between an acronym and an abbreviation, so it might now be known as meaning 'three letter acronym' just by mistake.
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Re: Gobbledegook Banned

You're right. Not many people know the difference between an abbreviation and an acronym.  Here's something I found that also introduces an 'initialism just to confuse us further.
    * An abbreviation is a shortening of a word or a phrase.
    * An acronym is an abbreviation that forms a word.
    * An initialism is an abbreviation that uses the first letter of each word in the phrase (thus, some but not all initialisms are acronyms).
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Re: Gobbledegook Banned

Indeed, sounds about right, although I don't think I've ever encountered 'initialism' actually being used. But either way, the moral of the story is always use 'abbreviation' if you're not sure - as that can be applied to anything (seeing as acronyms and initialisms are just types of abbreviation).
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Actually since the word acronym was originally just an Americanism, you can't actually expect it to have a precise meaning.
So constructions such as IBM, LASER etc are accorded equal acronymic (yes there is such a word) status.
Even though it's a noun they've probably gone and invented a verb usage for it.  Cheesy

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Re: Gobbledegook Banned

Be3G has got it.  All acronyms are abbreviations but not all abbreviations are acronyms.  Better not discuss initialisms - they're new to me as well Smiley
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Re: Gobbledegook Banned

I think they're just letters.