Global Warming? or local?

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Saw this cherry tree in a road near us ... it has been in bloom for a week now. 
I have also noticed the Daff`s are poking their noses out.... 
a bit early for Mothers day/Easter/St David`s Day !!! 

[#2]

you should tell Tesco, got a nice shelf of Hot Cross buns

[#3]

I think the sell them all year round, Pierre, as my missus keeps bringing them home "as a treat" !!!.. 

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2008/dec/09/poznan-copenhagen-global-warming-targets-climate-c...
And what Kevin Anderson doesnt say is that when this 4 to 5 degree rise happens it will take place in a year or two judging by past equivalent events. It is not going to be a good idea to live too long.

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But how much faith can you give this report when they are using fuzzy science?

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At 650ppm, the same fuzzy science says the world would face a catastrophic 4C average rise. And even that bleak future, Anderson said, could only be achieved if rich countries adopted "draconian emission reductions within a decade". Only an unprecedented "planned economic recession" might be enough. The current financial woes would not come close.

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We can only hope it is not as bad as all that. Read....
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20026851.900-are-climate-scientists-overselling-their-models.h...
But fuzzy is in common use in mathematics nowadays. Logic etc.

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If ever there were an example of "fuzzy", Doug, it's that article!
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"The temptation to interpret model noise as forecast information invades our living rooms every night. TV weather-forecast maps look so realistic it is hard not to over-interpret tiny details - to imagine that the band of rain passing over Oxfordshire at noon next Saturday requires postponing a barbecue. Rain may indeed be likely somewhere in the area sometime on Saturday, but the details we see on TV forecasts are noise from the models."
If it is a band of rain that is forecast (and within three to four days it is a forecast, not a model) then it is a weather front and you will get rain at about that time.
If its showers that are forecast then, as we all know, they are random.
It is long term forecasts (will it be a white Christmas?) that are models, which is why the Met Office don't do those predictions.
Even if the global warming experts are right, there is no chance that the major players (India, China, USA) will take the necessary action. So why are we flagellating ourselves?
Lets put our old light-bulbs back in and enjoy a party while we can 

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Catastrophe: fireball Earth ended on a sobering thought, no matter how technologically advanced we may become, if the planet or whoever you may think rules it from the heavens gets fed up with our antics, things such as an explosion of the supervolcano under Yellowstone National Park in the States or indeed what has been mentioned here can be set in motion and there would not be a thing we could do to prevent our extinction.
I think it does say somehwre in the Bible (and no I'm not a Bible basher but I had to know a bit as I went to a Catholic school) that God has given man the means to destroy himself so who knows, maybe this is how it all ends........ or maybe not.

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Wow!  all this very detailed and intensive discussion .....      all because I photographed a cherry tree in bloom in December !!! 

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Yes, you never know where a thread will go do you.

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nope!  it just seems to thread this way and that, and weave in all sorts of directions, there` s just no pattern to it at all !

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does that mean I can get a fire engine soon to put out Chillies fire 

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Well I don't think we'll be here when total disaster strikes like the expansion of the sun into a red giant.
I think we will have left this planet and gone to colonise a new 'planet Earth'

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Quote from: pierre_pierre

does that mean I can get a fire engine soon to put out Chillies fire

What have you got against Chilly? Or penguins?
Once had to spend two nights in a tent at the bottom of a glacier in the middle of a penguin colony. They are great company , apart from the smell.....
If you could bottle it, it would be more effective than CS gas!
But I came to love penguins. Perhaps thats why I'm now a linux man. Please would you stop abusing them in your sig. 

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nothing against penguins, that is a photo of a 6 ft long cross stitch I did as rehab