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Gillian Duffy rocks!

WildRose52
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Gillian Duffy rocks!


Any thoughts on `Bigotgate`?  in view of what Gillian Duffy has now stated in her
exclusive interview with the press.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1270337/Gordon-wont-getting-vote-Gillian-Duffy-
reveals-REALLY-upset-devastating-exchange-PM.html#ixzz0ml802kjM
The words that spring to my mind here are :  `ignorant` and `arrogant`
Igorant, because of how he referred to her...
and arrogant in ASSUMING he`ll get voted back in, hence his invitation to her.

GB has certainly never been to `charm school` has he?
Gillian has now thrown away her voting form, so I think he wasted his time.
She`s certainly going to be much wealthier for this experience.
Max Clifford reckoned a few days back her story could be worth around £100,000
She had the experience of a life time, and one that many voters would have loved to have -
not just for the money but rather for the chance of speaking their mind.
Gillian certainly gets my vote, bless her.
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WildRose52
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On a lighter note, I saw a funny side to it all :-
Being from Rochdale, she rather reminded me of Gracie Fields
(as we know,Gracie came from Rochdale)
One of her famous songs was `Christopher Robin` - and in
particular after this event with Gillian, I immediately thought of a
famous line from Gracie`s song which went :  `Christopher Robin
is saying his prayers`
I think we can now re-phrase that to :  `Gordon Brown is saying his
prayers`  LOL.
Gracie would sure have been proud of Gillian no doubt.
Another of her songs was :  `If I`d known you were coming I`d have
baked a cake`
Cor blimey:  Gillian said she didnt even have coffee to offer him, never
mind a cake LOL  Grin
Who said politics cant be a laugh?

budgie
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Re: Gillian Duffy rocks!

gordon brown meant every word he said about gillian Angry
shows what he is really like
ukip for me all the way  Cool
WildRose52
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Maybe adds substance too to what his staff have stated previously, about
his temper and his wild outbursts against them.
I thought Gillian Duffy handled the situation very well.  She deserves a
medal for saying what many would have said.
At least now she`ll be able to afford more coffee (and cake!)
Hope my mentioning Gracie hasnt given too much away about my age lol.
Ive only heard on records...  honest!
SRD
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I'm afraid I take everything I hear from the Northcliffe stable of media (publishers of the Mail) with a very large pinch of salt; a year or so back Private Eye published a list of those media outlets who had most complaints upheld about the inaccuracy of their stories and the number of corrections to inaccurate stories published; Northcliffe had nearly double the number of upheld complaints and the worst retraction/correction record of any other news media group, even the porn baron who runs the Express can't get anywhere near their record.  I still say that I agree with Gordon Brown, she is a bigoted woman, and if his later comments hadn't been published everyone would be praising the way he dealt with her ill informed comments.
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Quote
Rochdale: One town's story of immigration
They are the startling facts that appear to underline Gillian Duffy's concern over immigration in her home town of Rochdale; the same worries that prompted Gordon Brown to brand the pensioner a "bigot".

In nine schools across the town, 70 per cent of the children speak English as a foreign language. In one school, Heybrook Primary, where every single one of 520 children is Asian, the figure is 100 per cent.
The white population, according to the council's own figures, is declining by about 5,000 people a decade. 
 
     
Meanwhile, the size of the ethnic minority population has doubled in 20 years to 33,650, including more than 27,000 people who originate from Pakistan and Bangladesh.
Within 10 years, one fifth of Rochdale's population will have come from immigrant communities.
The growth in population comes at a cost. About £1.2 million is spent by the Liberal Democrat-controlled council on translation services while there are 3,631 applicants currently waiting for a council house in Rochdale.
A special housing strategy just for the burgeoning ethnic groups has been adopted.
Then there is the maternity ward at Rochdale Infirmary which every now and again – the hospital refuses to say how often – is forced to shut because it is full.
"The safety of patients is the first priority," the hospital said last week.
And in the background to all this is an unemployment rate in Rochdale of just over seven per cent, making it among the worst in the country.
The Liberal Democrat's candidate Paul Rowen, who is hoping to be re-elected, admitted to The Sunday Telegraph there were 'stresses and strains' but insisted Rochdale was nothing out of the ordinary.
The problems in nearby Burnley, Oldham and Bradford were worse, he said.
He added: "The thing about Rochdale is the actual community cohesion is much stronger."
He is probably right. The levels of immigration in Rochdale are not especially high.
About a quarter of all newborn babies in the town are born to mothers who themselves were born outside the UK – exactly the national average.
Mrs Duffy's complaint to Mr Brown about Eastern Europeans – "where are they flocking from?" she asked– may highlight a growing unease nationally but the reality is there have been fewer in Rochdale than elsewhere.
In all, according to figures obtained from the Department for Work and Pensions, about 2,200 Eastern Europeans from the new member states have moved to the town since 2004 when the European Union expanded.
The rate of immigration from eastern Europe is only about half the UK average.
But there is no disguising the fact the issue of immigration is at the top of the political agenda here.
When Mrs Duffy collared Mr Brown last Wednesday, she was articulating the concerns of many millions of people up and down the country.
Immigration, until that point, barely mentioned by the mainstream parties, has become one of the key election issues.
Gillian Duffy's next door neighbour Jamie Buckley, 33, a father of two, has done little work as a painter and decorator in the past year or so.
"There hasn't been a lot of work for along time," he says, "Part of it is the economy; part of it is immigrants."
Anthony Robson, 43, an IT project manager, who drives a 4x4 BMW with England flags which flutter on the roof and lives around the corner from Mrs Duffy's daughter, says: "Immigration is a big issue here.
"If you look anywhere nowadays you feel that certain people are put before the people of this country. People think they can come over from eastern Europe and work their way up the ladder quicker than anybody else.
"A lot of people have a lot support for what she [Mrs Duffy] said.
"There is a lack of fairness. Immigration is a big burden on public services especially when the people using these services have not paid into the state the way those of us who have been here for years. T
"hey can somehow get their four bedroom houses. People feel it is unfair. I would like to see people in this country put above people who have only just arrived. let's sort our own problems out before others, please?"
Mr Robson was unsure how he would vote. He was considering a vote for either The English Democrats or Ukip
A report on migrant workers in Rochdale and Oldham, produced by researchers at the University of Salford in 2008, found that although new migrants were engaging with people from their own country "there was very little involvement with the wider community".
It recommended that with current "patterns of settlement likely to continue ... consideration needs to be given to the impact on community cohesion and the local infrastructure."
Near Mrs Duffy's house, the Polske Delikatesy is doing a roaring trade. The Poles coming and going from the shop are not keen to discuss immigration with The Sunday Telegraph.
Some patently don't speak good enough English to conduct a conversation.
Gerry Marsden, a 63-year-old management executive and Tory voter born and bred in Rochdale steps forward to speak up for the Eastern Europeans who sell him his daily bread and ham.
"Immigration is a big issue here," he says, "But it's not necessarily the Europeans who are the problem. They are skilled people.
"That's not true of the Africans. There are two problems with them - they don't speak the language and a lot of them are illegal.
"There's a huge Asian population too. Most are all right but there's a huge clash of cultures. They tend to ghettoise the place."
Population projections suggest that within the decade more than 36,000 adults and children of Pakistani and Bangladeshi origin will be living in the town. According to the 2001 census, the figure was 18,400 adults.
A stone's throw from the spot where Mrs Duffy lobbed her 'immigration' bombshell into the electoral debate, the residents of Falinge Flats, an area infamous for being branded the unemployment capital of Britain with a staggering 75 per cent unemployment rate, come from all corners of the world.
Built in 1969, the maze of four storey blocks in Lower Falinge containing 513 flats are desperately sort after by locals and immigrants alike trying to get on the council's housing ladder.
About half the local residents are white British. Signs posted outside the housing office welcome people in ten different languages including Portuguese, Polish, Arabic and Ethiopian.
Residents include eight families from Ethiopia granted asylum almost three years ago. Kederia Hussain Mohammad, a journalist from Addis Ababa who fled the country in fear of her life, said it was difficult for her to now get work.
"We don't know where to go because we are new."
She and her three children survive on a series of benefits including jobseekers' allowance, housing and child benefits.
Two of her children aged 18 and 17, are studying at a local college. Her friend Abdulkadir Chamsa, 40, barely speaks English after three years here.
"There are no jobs," he says in broken English. His son Ahmed, 15, acts as his translator.
Aysha Iqbal, 19, and her sister Salmah, 24, whose parents came to Rochdale 35 years ago, are off to the housing office to inquire about their place on the list.
So far they have been waiting six months. Asked what they do for a living they reply: "Jobskeers", meaning they receive about £50 each a week on Jobseekers' Allowance.
People here don't really talk about themselves as unemployed anymore. They support Mrs Duffy's right to broach immigration.
"Illegal immigrants who come down here without visas, they are wrong," says Aysha, speaking with a broad northern accent.
Not everyone is impressed with Mrs Duffy's intervention.
Antonina Leice, 31, an interpreter from Ukraine, who lives in the flats, says: "I don't think immigrants are causing problems here. They only take jobs that English people don't want.
"A lot of English people just don't want to work. It is a way of life for them to stay at home and live off benefits."
Dressed immaculately in a trouser suit and raincoat, she came to Rochdale about three years ago after meeting her now husband on a Christian internet dating site. He in turn had arrived from Latvia with his first wife about five years ago.
"I don't get her [Mrs Duffy's] point because I don't think we cause her any problems," says Mrs Leice.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/election-2010/7663660/Rochdale-One-towns-story-of-immigration.html
SRD
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A long list published by a newspaper whose owners are tax exiles living in fortified premises.
If my Maths is accurate the increase from the current ratio of immigrants to long term residents in Rochdale in 10 years is only 4% of course this is a projection which doesn't take into account the reason for the original major immigration of skilled textile workers into a town where the indigenous population refused to take the jobs on offer, so, in order to maintain their businesses in Britain, they imported skilled, and I emphasise skilled, workers, all of whom contribute via taxation to the nations economy.
Of course, where there is mass immigration, there are schools where the majority of the pupils are from immigrant stock, presumably in the same way that there are 100% Catholic schools throughout the country and 100% Jewish schools throughout the country, and, despite the so called mass immigration of, heaven forbid, foreigners there are 100% British schools.
The major reason for the decline in white population up north is the mass emigration of these foreigners to the south, to the extent that vast areas of the countryside are being paved over and built on to provide homes, in very much mixed race areas, for those who may claim to be escaping from the 'foreigners' up North.  This, coupled with difference in birth rates (the majority of the white middle classes nowadays have less than 2 children per couple) ensure that the balance of population growth is towards families who can see a major future in our nation.
As a major part of the article admits, immigration from Eastern Europe, and I can't quite work out how Ms Duffy couldn't work out for herself that immigrants from Eastern Europe come from Eastern Europe, isn't touching Rochdale ant differently to the rest of the country.  And, as GB pointed out, that immigration is matched almost person for person by British people working in Eastern Europe.
The rest of the article goes on to demonstrate just how useful the vast majority of these immigrants are and that a large percentage of those who are asylum seekers are there because they've been sent there not because they want to be there, and despite that are doing what they can to improve their situation.
Oh that our own population would show such drive.
WildRose52
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SRD,
I wonder if you`d feal the same way if you got a group of illegals taking up
residence in your garden shed?
This happened not long ago in one area.
The residents told how the illegals even used the lawn for the toilet.
When the residents complained, guess what?
They were told by the police that they could NOT evict them because they
had not broken in - just walked in, and therefore had not committed criminal
damage.  In the meantime they were drinking /using drugs in these residents
private back gardens.
I know you might say:  well they should have sucured their back garden - and yes
they should, but how many dont?    An English man`s home is his castle, and
so also is his garden part of that estate.   
Someone needs to put their foot down and say: `enough is enough`
Australia did it, why cant Britain?
We`re just too soft.
Anyone ever remember that TV programme `The Comedians`?
Remember little Charlie Williams?
and how he used to say:  `we`re tekkin over mrs`
Well, for some people, his words are coming true, and they`ve browned off with it.