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Genuine Police Warning

nadger
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Genuine Police Warning

Had the source not been a retired police Chief Supt I might have been a bit sceptical.
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*Worth Passing On!*
*This is happening now!*

*Sad, especially if you are inclined to 'help' people...*
While driving on a rural end of the roadway on Thursday morning, I saw an
infant car seat on the side of the road with a blanket draped over it.  For
whatever reason, I did not stop, even though I had all kinds of thoughts
running through my head.  But when I got to my destination, I called the
Police and they were going to check it out. But, this is what the Police
advised even before they went out there to check....
"There are several things to be aware of ... gangs and thieves are now
plotting different ways to get a person (mostly women)to *stop* their
vehicle and get out of the car.
"There is a gang initiation reported by the local Police  where  gangs are
placing a car seat by the road...with a fake baby in
it...waiting for a woman, of course, to stop and check on the abandoned
baby.
"Note that the location of this car seat is usually beside a wooded or
grassy (field) area and the person  -- woman  -- will be dragged into the
woods, beaten and raped, and usually left for dead.  If it's a man, they're
usually beaten and robbed and maybe left for dead, too.
*DO NOT STOP FOR ANY  REASON!!!*
    *DIAL 9-9-9*
AND REPORT WHAT YOU SAW, BUT DON'T EVEN SLOW DOWN.
"IF YOU  ARE DRIVING AT NIGHT AND EGGS ARE THROWN AT YOUR WINDSCREEN, *DO
NOT STOP TO CHECK THE CAR*,  *DO NOT OPERATE THE WIPER*  AND *DO NOT SPRAY
ANY WATER *BECAUSE EGGS MIXED
WITH WATER BECOME MILKY AND BLOCK YOUR VISION UP TO 92.5%,  AND  YOU ARE
THEN *FORCED* TO STOP BESIDE THE ROAD AND BECOME A VICTIM OF THESE
CRIMINALS.
THIS IS A NEW TECHNIQUE USED BY GANGS, SO PLEASE INFORM YOUR FRIENDS AND
RELATIVES.
THESE ARE DESPERATE TIMES AND THESE ARE UNSAVOURY INDIVIDUALS WHO WILL TAKE
DESPERATE MEASURES TO GET WHAT THEY WANT."

Please talk to your loved ones about this. This is a new tactic used.
Please be safe.
Get started NOW -- SEND THIS MESSAGE TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS AND LOVED ONES TO
BE CAREFUL AND AWARE OF EVERYTHING AROUND THEM SO AS NOT TO BECOME A VICTIM.

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Re: Genuine Police Warning

Interesting and well worth taking on board.  You have to be so careful these days.  It's a pity some genuine incident may go unattended because of things like this.
Denzil
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Re: Genuine Police Warning

Sorry, not genuine.
http://www.snopes.com/crime/gangs/carseat.asp
http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/crime/a/eggs_windshield_crime_alert.htm
What raised my suspicion was, "While driving on a rural end of the roadway". OK, it makes sense, but I can't see any English person saying it that way.
It is worth being careful about potential distraction techniques, but there are so many possible ways you could distract someone and make them stop that there is no point listing a couple of examples. You just need to apply some common sense.
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Re: Genuine Police Warning

Quote from: nadger
Had the source not been a retired police Chief Supt I might have been a bit sceptical.

IME the police are as gullible as anyone else when it comes to spreading alarm based on urban myths. Only a few weeks ago there was a 'police warning' in the local press about not pressing a digit on the phone in response to a recorded cold call. Sure, it's probably a scam, but pressing the digit won't cost you £25 a minute, or indeed anything at all.
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BE CAREFUL AND AWARE OF EVERYTHING...  ...SO AS NOT TO BECOME A VICTIM.

Can't argue with that bit.
Not young enough to know everything
pierre_pierre
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Re: Genuine Police Warning

you cant believe anything the police do - this is Linconshire version of you cant believe it  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-11139787
itsme
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Re: Genuine Police Warning

I believe the police are acting correctly to let the courts decide and set a president. The police are not judge and jury.
alanf
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Re: Genuine Police Warning

If the driver broke the law then it is perhaps the law makers who didn't draft the legislation correctly. Or the Health Service that employed a private contractor instead of using one of its own vehicles which the report said could not have been prosecuted.
The risk of losing a life through late arrival of an organ has to be balanced against  the risk of lives being lost because of a speeding organ delivery vehicle.
Better that the police apply the law as it exists and let the courts decide a hopefully sensible outcome.
nadger
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I've been following the story on BBC Look East and hope the driver doesn't end up losing his licence & job.
Personally I can't see the difference between delivering an organ needed for a vital transplant and carrying a patient.
Unfortunately it's not possible to use an ambulance and a small van is a far better vehicle for the job.
Guess, as an ex courier, I'm biased.
pierre_pierre
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Re: Genuine Police Warning

And there is a Police Camera Action of an escorted Courier with an organ on the M11 and through the City going a bit faster than the one recently
jmd
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Re: Genuine Police Warning

Glad Denzil mentioned snopes.com - I find that a useful site for checking these "warning" emails that people persist in sending round and round without checking whether they are true or not.
Simon_M
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I think the logic goes like this:
Generate an alarming email with a ring of truth to it - after all, some of the advice was sensible.
Send it out to all the email addresses you already have, with the instruction to pass it on.
Rely on most people who fall for it to be the same people that send these on using the To: & Cc: fields rather than the Bcc: field:, thus revealling everybody's email address to every other recipient.
Rely on the next people along the chain to compound the problem by both failing to use the Bcc: field & by failing to edit out the email addresses from the forwarded message.
Rely on one of these messages (now with hundreds of email addresses in it) landing on a compromised computer.
Harvest a whole load more email addresses for your spam mailing list.
Moral:
If you get an email telling you in tabloid terminology to use common sense (including a few lurid examples), that has worse grammer & sentence construction that even a tabloid would use and it asks you to pass it on to 'everyone you know'; don't.
nadger
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Re: Genuine Police Warning

One thing I didn't do was to email it to anyone else.
Whether or not it's genuine the advice contained can't harm anyone and the source, ret'd Chief Super, is a friends brother-in law.
No intention of throwing an egg at my windscreen to see what happens if one runs the wipers.
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Re: Genuine Police Warning

Quote from: Simon
I think the logic goes like this:
Rely on most people who fall for it to be the same people that send these on using the To: & Cc: fields rather than the Bcc: field:, thus revealling everybody's email address to every other recipient.
Rely on the next people along the chain to compound the problem by both failing to use the Bcc: field & by failing to edit out the email addresses from the forwarded message.
Rely on one of these messages (now with hundreds of email addresses in it) landing on a compromised computer.
Harvest a whole load more email addresses for your spam mailing list.

Using Thunderbird to put an address in the To field you simply click on it in the address book.  If you want to do BCC you have to click the address once and then double click the BCC box at the bottom of the address book.  Is there a quicker way of doing it?
Simon_M
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Re: Genuine Police Warning

If I want to send an email to an arbitary group of people in my address book, without revealing each person's address to all the others, this is what I do. I'm sure it's not the only way.
I am using Thunderbird 2.
Open a new message window (i.e. click 'Write')
Click 'Contacts' if not already open.
Use the 'Search for' box, the Shift & Ctrl keys as appropriate to select (highlight) the Contacts I want to include.
Right click on any one of them & select 'Add to Bcc' field.
Thunderbird adds all the selected Contacts as Bcc recipients. All of them receive an email addressed to 'undisclosed-recipients:'.
pierre_pierre
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Thunderbird 3.1.2
where the address panel is to the left is a drop down box To:, click that and you get a choice
To:
Cc:
Bcc:
Reply-to:
Newsgroup:
Followup-To: