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GM OnStar cars will upload all data unless owners opt out

Midnight_Caller
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GM OnStar cars will upload all data unless owners opt out

Hi All
Just seen this:
[quote="The Register"]
GM OnStar cars will upload all data unless owners opt out
It's coming: Your car will rat you out to insurers

Cars fitted with OnStar's technology will be tracked even if the owners don't sign up to the service, in a change to the company's policy that will kick in come December.
OnStar is a service offered by General Motors USA, which inserts a mobile phone, along with telemetry tracking kit, into cars sold by the company. Owners are then offered the option to sign up to the navigation and automatic crash reporting, but in a policy change the company will start collecting data from drivers even if they haven't signed up for the service.
In the notice being sent out to subscribers, and picked up by Wired, OnStar explains that from December this year it will start collecting information about everything from oil levels to mileage, and details of any accident in which the vehicle is involved – including direction of impact, seatbelt use and the location/speed of the vehicle at the time of the accident.
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Re: GM OnStar cars will upload all data unless owners opt out

Funnily enough there was a YouGov poll recently about car insurance and it asked questions like "would you be happy for your vehicle to send data to your insurance company in the event of an accident"
I said no on the basis that I would prefer to explain the circumstances myself.
If I didn't wash and polish it every week it might drop me in it.
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Re: GM OnStar cars will upload all data unless owners opt out

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GM OnStar cars will upload all data unless owners opt out
It's coming: Your car will rat you out to insurers

Over the GSM network?, is it reliable enough?
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Re: GM OnStar cars will upload all data unless owners opt out

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Earlier this month the European Commission formally adopted eCall, which requires all new cars sold within the EU to be fitted with automatic tracking, and an embedded cellular phone, by 2015. eCall will call up the emergency services in the event of a crash, but it will also put a mobile phone into every car in Europe, which opens up a host of options.

However a more factual statement is
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The Commission has set a target of fitting the automatic dial-up technology into all new models of cars by 2015, estimating that, the move will save "several hundred" lives in Europe a year by speeding the arrival time of emergency services to car crashes by as much as 50 per cent, especially in remote areas.
The system is designed to dial 112 in the event of a crash and transmit a data message with the accident details - the time of the incident, the position of the crash and the direction of travel, which could be crucial for accidents on motorways or in tunnels. It would also open a voice channel so the response centre could attempt to communicate with the vehicle occupants.
A Commission statement said: "To rule out privacy concerns, the eCall system does not allow the tracking of vehicles because it 'sleeps' and does not send any signals until it is activated by a crash".
which is a totally different ball game http://eandt.theiet.org/news/2011/sep/ecall-mobile-networks.cfm
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Re: GM OnStar cars will upload all data unless owners opt out

the technology is not new, Ford research were using it in 1995,to monitor the Engine test vehicle fleet. But dial 112 if an accident in a tunnel, who's kidding who
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Re: GM OnStar cars will upload all data unless owners opt out

Thanks for the clarification Oldjim.  Ir's been common in the US for a long time.  No need for the tin foil hats Wink