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Ford focus diesel

Has anyone else got a Ford focus diesel car ?
According to some of the buying guides they are one of the most common cars on the road and are rated as being very reliable.
I ask because mine does not fall into this category. In the l2 months I have owned it a full set of new injectors have been needed and now a dual mass flywheel, thats on top of a few other minor things like cam & crankshaft sensors etc.
Have I just been unlucky or is this par for the course.
On a more general note would you buy a diesel car ? The last one I had was fantastic (VW Golf) owned for 4 years with not a single engine problem in that time.
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On a more general note would you buy a diesel car ?

I clocked over 380.000 miles on 1.6 Escort diesel without having head off or any major engine work.
2 Astra diesels clocked about 280,000 & 180,000 but did need some work.
I now run petrol engine but, were I able to afford one, would buy another diesel as, to my mind, much nicer to drive.
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When I had this dual mass flywheel changed the garage said they got a lot of focuses in with the same problem.... They thought it was a stupid idea to replace the earlier standard clutch system with a dual mass flywheel as the only ones to benefit were the garages who undertook to repair them.
It seems to me that the more technical cars get the more likely it is they will go wrong and to get them fixed will always cost a lot of cash.
Simon_M
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Dual-mass flywheels do seem to have been a bit of a disaster & not just for Ford. VW have had similar problems.
It seems odd that nobody's testing showed it up. Maybe they though it a risk worth taking to get the benefits. I can't even remember what they were - smoother running diesel engines maybe?
Euge
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Not just focus' either, the diesel mondeo suffers with the same problems. Places like euro carparts stock loads of dual mass flywheels because they break so often, my mate works for them and has just quoted me a price for one as coincidence would have it.
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I've had diesel cars since 1990, and would never voluntary go back to petrol.
My first was a Citroen BX - and the old XUD 1.9 Turbo Peugeot engine . I did this as a friend had one and I was very impressed.
Living in Scotland and travelling long distances over very hilly country, I found the turbo diesel much better at hill climbing and of course fuel efficient.
Peugeot diesels seemed much more advanced than most other volume manufacturers, probably because then France had very cheap diesel and so many cars were diesel.
Then two Citroen Zantia -
never a spot of problem, they start in the coldest weather - never had any fuel waxing, and once running you don't that problem some petrol cars had then with erratic running until warm.
The A Peugeot 406 - and now with the newer direct injection common rail engine. Other Pugs have followed - all diesels.
I don't why it took Ford so long to catch up, their diesels were very agricultural compared with Pugs until recently.
One of the things I like about them is the much higher torque and therefore acceleration in the lower rev ranges. To match it in a petrol - it is necessary to rev a perol engine hard.
And when travelling at 70, the engine RPM is a good bit slower than the equivalent petrol - or so I'm told - as I only use petrol in hire cars.
And when not travelling fast, driving a diesel at moderate, slow speeds seems so much more relaxing.

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Petrol head through and through. Never liked diesel, don't like the sound of a tractor outside at 4am when the neighbour is off to work.
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Old technology car then - what car is neighbours ?.
First minute or so of diesel can be a little more noisy - but that soon quietens down. Travelling at anything more than 20 mph and inside a car I would challange many people to tell they were in a diesel
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In fact the Police drivers around here cant tell the difference either, the authorities have had to specially mark the fuel fillers to stop them putting the wrong fuel in.
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My friend had a CDi version, it failed to start, reason "swarf in the diesel line" - towed to garage, it seems a common problem solution is whole new diesel pump and injectors, cost £1400+ it seems to be a common problem. Just a few months earlier the alternator gave up, £600 for repair. He seems to have had a string of expensive fixes. Now sold the car and bought a Skoda (aka VW)
Most cars though have problems sooner or later.
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Skoda Fabia 1.9 SDI.....  Smiley  ............. bought it at 55,000 4 years ago....  Smiley  .... regular oil and filter changes... regular cambelt change. ....usual running costs... tyres, 1 battery, brakes, just replaced the clutch at 135,000 miles just done a 400 mile round trip to Hilton Park Sevices... not a problem...  Smiley

to quote a well known saying............. "best car I ever bought"..  Smiley  .  will definitely buy another.... but this one will do me for a few more thousand miles yet... !  Smiley
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Glad to hear that Shutter,
It be interesting to hear the reliability comparison of VW v Skoda v Seat - mostly similar mechanical componets but built in Germany / Czech / Spain .
german cars were once the bye word for reliability but that changed a few years ago.
Where do they build the engines / gearboxes etc for all these cars ? - it would seem sensible to build them in Czech because of the lower labour costs.
The Czechs have a good history as good engineers, or did before the Russians swamped their country
I've always admired the Skoda Octavia and friends have said they are great cars and reliable.
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I'd never trust any car that doesn't have either a Volvo, Toyota, Honda or Mazda engine now. I think you can see the order of preference there Wink
Having been driving a volvo lump powered car for a while now and having nothing but hassle free driving from it (makes a change for me!) I'd never touch another european engine powered car again (IE french, italian or german!). I know german engineering is supposed to be bomb proof but thats no good if the engine packs up after 200k miles.
I'd rather drive a rusty old volvo powered lump which I know will do A => B and back without any serious problems. Admittedly though I'd possibly consider a ford now they own Volvo and use volvo lumps in many different ford cars.
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And Mazda - they use Ford parts and same floor panels i believe ?
But I thought Sweden was in Europe last time I looked ?  Cheesy
I seem to recall the boss of Toyota saying they would never have a diesel car - but have had to succomb to market forces, and i have heard their diesel is fairly good.
Japanese company losing face ?
And i presume built  near Derby
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Audi do good diesels. The 4.2 V8 is astounding.