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Flights Returning to Normal

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Flights Returning to Normal

Most airlines are getting back to normal today after the recent disruptions.  Long haul appear to be the first to resume normal schedules followed by short haul.  All American airlines flying into Europe have announced that they expect to operate as normally today but advise all travellers to check flight status online before leaving for the airport.
The backlog is going to take some clearing though particularly on busy routes.
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WildRose52
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Ryanair boss says he isnt going to pay anyone`s expenses though
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1267804/Iceland-volcano-eruption-Ryanair-boss-defies-courts-...
Fact is though, Ryanair, unlike others, arent greedy, and he does have a valid point when he says that passengers have only paid 30 Euro
(£26) for a ticket.
He`s said he`s willing to fight through the court on this.
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I wonder why anyone should think the airline should pay.The volcano problem was not down to them.  I'm still in the US and airlines affected here are allowing passengers a free transfer to another flight once seats are available. 
As a nice gesture to stranded holidaymakers some Theme Parks in Florida have given free admission to anyone producing a valid airline ticket for the time the delays have been in effect.
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Despite the Daily Star Headline
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/apr/21/airports-pull-daily-star
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Copies of today's Daily Star have been removed from airport newsagent shelves today over fears that its splash, headlined "Terror as plane hits ash cloud" with an image of a 747 with engines ablaze, could cause panic among travellers.
Richard Desmond's red top was removed from shops at Gatwick and Manchester airports after today's edition was published, with a front-page story claiming to feature "dramatic pictures as jets get OK to defy volcano".
However, the image used in the splash was taken from a TV reconstruction of an incident 28 years ago in which a BA 747's engines were knocked out by a volcanic ash cloud. The documentary, previously broadcast on the National Geographic channel, is to be shown on Channel Five tonight.
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You'd have thought the editor may have used a bit more common sense Undecided
WildRose52
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Not to mention the insensitivity by the producer of the National Geographic Channel.
I`m sure there`s still ppl from abroad stuck in the UK at the minute, who might
happen to see that programme.
They sure know how to use fear tactics to frighten ppl.
pierre_pierre
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not sure whose rag the daily star is but The Discovery channel lives on Sky, and Sky is owned by mud doc and he also owns Five
pierre_pierre
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just looked it up, its a northern sister to the Daily Express - nuff said
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The BA flight into Tampa arrived on time this afternoon.  Anyone with a ticket on tonight's return flight will travel and those with tickets from previous days will be on standby.  Miami has a major problem with too many passengers wanting to fly and they estimate a week to clear the backlog.  They are recommending passengers drive to Tampa as there is a better chance of travel earlier.
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Quote from: WildRose52

Ryanair boss says he isnt going to pay anyone`s expenses though
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1267804/Iceland-volcano-eruption-Ryanair-boss-defies-courts-...
Fact is though, Ryanair, unlike others, arent greedy, and he does have a valid point when he says that passengers have only paid 30 Euro
(£26) for a ticket.
He`s said he`s willing to fight through the court on this.
No he isn't - just bluster as he knew he would lose
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Volcano-Ash-Ryanair-To-Comply-With-EU-Law-And-Fully-Refund-...
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Ryanair says it will comply with EU law and fully reimburse Britons stranded abroad by the UK flight ban.
Chief executive Michael O'Leary had said passengers of the no-frills airline would only get back their airfare.
But in a U-turn he said the carrier would comply with the regulations under which EU airlines are required to reimburse the "reasonable receipted expenses of disrupted passengers".
WildRose52
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Do you reckon the Ryanair boss will back down?
I dont.
Its probably a tricky issue.
It wasnt his fault, or the holidaymakers fault that the volcano erupted.
If he does stand his ground, and other airline bosses were to back him,
then the only other redress I can see would be for people to try and prove
that Government bodies needlessly shut down the air space  (now that
might become quite a battle lol)
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Huh
Ryanair (and some other airlines to a lesser extent) are taking the Mick.
Basically:
1. They know the rules and what they have to pay for to cover passenger delays, irrespective of who/what is "to blame".
2. They know the potential risks and WILL have assessed them (including volcano ash, unpredictable though it is)
3. They then take a commercial decision - bear the risk themselves (*self-insure) or cover it with commercial insurance.
4. The cost of that "insurance" obviously "should" be reflected in ticket prices, whoever provides it.
It looks like Ryanair have decided to actually ignore this risk (or assume they can avoid significant payouts) and have kept their prices artificially low as a result.
Tough, they made that choice and now must pay for it.  Cool
And another angle on this is that if their prices are artificially low because they are under-insured then there may be some anti-competitive interest from the relevant authorities...... Shocked
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Back to Normal ?  people in Florida who lost there flight are being put in a very big queue, one on the News just now expected flight now May 7th, an extra 14 days from cancelled flight  ( and wont be able to vote)
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people in Florida who lost there flight are being put in a very big queue

Presumably they are what is known as "independent travellers" or on business.
Anyone on a package tour will get repatriated by the tour company and looked after meanwhile.
And anyone using an EU-based airline will get "reasonable" food & accomodation costs covered untill they can get a seat.
My son is currently in Hong Kong, was due back in the UK today on Cathay Pacific but the flight was cancelled. He has no assistance from them whatsoever and just has to try to rebook and wait until he can get a seat. He'll make the most of it and isn't complaining.
Biggest problem he has is that HK is full, no hotel rooms anywhere he says after tomorrow night, but hopefully that will change.
His other problem is that he has an interview (for a Masters course) next week, but hopefully that can be postponed if he can't get back.
pierre_pierre
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Whoops perhaps its not that clear  http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8637978.stm

RAF Typhoon training halted as ash found in engine

Training flights on RAF Typhoons in Lincolnshire have been suspended after ash deposits were found in one aircraft's engines.
The fleet is being checked at its base in Coningsby, Lincolnshire.
The move comes amid recriminations over the costs of a six-day airspace shutdown caused by volcanic ash drifting south from Iceland.