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EU wants iPlayer access extended across Europe

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EU wants iPlayer access extended across Europe

As per the title - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-32607246
The EC has launched it's vision of a 'Digital Single Market' http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-15-4919_en.htm There will be quite a few shakeups, and welcome ones, if the proposals become reality!
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really you would welcome your taxes paying for a multilingual service for everyone in the EU to have free access to content created and hosted by the bbc ?
its a travesty waiting to happen, geoblocking was instigated at the insistence of the EU policy makers to prevent people buying on the cheap, sky was refused licencing for the EU as other companies were refused UK licencing, now they want to force such companies to offer their content to the rest of the EU at the same rate they charge domestically, despite knowing without any shadow of doubt that such practices will greatly increase running costs and without significant infrastructure investment by L3 will cripple the UK's ability to communicate with the rest of the world
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Stuff the EU. If they want access to OUR BBC that WE pay for then they should stump up some cash themselves.
We cannot continue giving everything away. We're running out of stuff for ourselves while europe is becoming stronger than ever and has more than we do in many circumstances.
I really don't know what is happening to us anymore..
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labour gave them the keys to the pantry and forgot to ask the country if it minded ....
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Re: EU wants iPlayer access extended across Europe

Let 'em have it via one of our 'superfast' broadband connections....
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Yeah it could be supplied on a talk talk connection  Cheesy
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Re: EU wants iPlayer access extended across Europe

The funding rules needs updating anyway. UK resident freeloaders can at present view iPlayer without paying anything to the cost of the BBC. If access to iPlayer and online TV is restricted to subscribers/licence fee payers then Europeans can pay the same annual subscription as us and then everyone is equal.
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Stuff the EU.

I think you've missed the point?  Huh
Which of these are you specifically unhappy with...?
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The Commission will propose:
1. rules to make cross-border e-commerce easier. This includes harmonised EU rules on contracts and consumer protection when you buy online: whether it is physical goods like shoes or furniture; or digital content like e-books or apps. Consumers are set to benefit from a wider range of rights and offers, while businesses will more easily sell to other EU countries. This will boost confidence to shop and sell across borders (see Factsheet for facts & figures).
2. to enforce consumer rules more rapidly and consistently, by reviewing the Regulation on Consumer Protection Cooperation.
3. more efficient and affordable parcel delivery. Currently 62% of companies trying to sell online say that too-high parcel delivery costs are a barrier (see the newly released Eurobarometer on e-commerce).
4. to end unjustified geo-blocking – a discriminatory practice used for commercial reasons, when online sellers either deny consumers access to a website based on their location, or re-route them to a local store with different prices. Such blocking means that, for example, car rental customers in one particular Member State may end up paying more for an identical car rental in the same destination.
5. to identify potential competition concerns affecting European e-commerce markets. The Commission therefore launched today an antitrust competition inquiry into the e-commerce sector in the European Union (press release).
6. a modern, more European copyright law: legislative proposals will follow before the end of 2015 to reduce the differences between national copyright regimes and allow for wider online access to works across the EU, including through further harmonisation measures. The aim is to improve people's access to cultural content online – thereby nurturing cultural diversity – while opening new opportunities for creators and the content industry. In particular, the Commission wants to ensure that users who buy films, music or articles at home can also enjoy them while travelling across Europe. The Commission will also look at the role of online intermediaries in relation to copyright-protected work. It will step up enforcement against commercial-scale infringements of intellectual property rights.
7. a review of the Satellite and Cable Directive to assess if its scope needs to be enlarged to broadcasters' online transmissions and to explore how to boost cross-border access to broadcasters' services in Europe.
8. to reduce the administrative burden businesses face from different VAT regimes: so that sellers of physical goods to other countries also benefit from single electronic registration and payment; and with a common VAT threshold to help smaller start-ups selling online.


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the last one, where they wrest control of tax rates from individual nations is a good place to start, then there's the announcement they want a single telecoms market, there's the plans to undo a previous decision to enforce geo blocking (which was instigated because the krauts were crying they lost online business to the Spaniards, which in turn lead to punitive cross boarder courier fees to further block the attraction of lower priced online goods from different regions across Europe.
now they want ot undo all the stuff they forced upon the whole EU because the new communist brigade at the helm wants everyone to have the exact same unsatisfactory existence as they shiver or starve and be beholden to the great leader for his benedictions
i say fuck them and there high and mighty crusade to create a new version of Nazi supremacy under the guise of radical socialism! 
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the last one, where they wrest control of tax rates from individual nations is a good place to start

Try reading it again (slowly), thinking about it and then posting.
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If access to iPlayer and online TV is restricted to subscribers/licence fee payers then Europeans can pay the same annual subscription as us and then everyone is equal.
I have never understood why that wasn't implemented from the outset. Surely setting up an account linked to your licence number couldn't have been too difficult.

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Re: EU wants iPlayer access extended across Europe

You don't need to have a TV Licence to use iPlayer, except for the live feeds do you?
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Re: EU wants iPlayer access extended across Europe

Yeah, no licence is required.
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If you use the BBC iPlayer to watch TV programmes at the same time as they are being shown on TV (live) then you will need to be covered by a valid TV Licence. You can buy a TV Licence online.
If you use the BBC iPlayer to watch BBC programmes after they have been broadcast either to download or via streaming on demand then you will not need a TV Licence.

This is something the BBC have been pushing to change though...
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Re: EU wants iPlayer access extended across Europe

I thought so, so Mav's implementation wouldn't have been valid when it was created.
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Re: EU wants iPlayer access extended across Europe

The BBC could open up access to iPlayer for other EU countries, but with adverts as they currently do for videos on their news and sport sites. This could generate substantial additional revenue and it would keep the expat community happy.