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Do your local police also do this

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MOTORISTS are calling for answers after a main road was closed for more than 10 hours following a single vehicle accident, which caused huge tailbacks and gridlocked roads.
A green VW Passat collided with the roundabout and ended up on its roof outside the fire station at Holes Bay North in Poole at around 2.50am on Monday A passing motorist spotted the accident and went to the fire station to ask for help.
A 25-year-old Yeovil man was taken to Poole Hospital with serious head and chest injuries and then transferred to Southampton Hospital. Police said his injuries could still be life-threatening.
Two other occupants had minor injuries and were arrested on suspicion of a motoring offence.
A fourth person left the scene and sparked a police search..
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I'm always astonished how long the Police keep roads closed or partially closed.  A friend in our local force tells me there are a number of reasons.  One is to take road measurements, photos etc for any prosecution, second, the safety of the officers investigating and third, time to remove the vehicles and clean the road. There are also times they need to call in specialist officers to deal with an incident.
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What were all the firemen asleep?
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on its roof outside the fire station
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A passing motorist spotted the accident and went to the fire station to ask for help.
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1) closing a road is normal when a person might die, as in this case - the driver was in hospital with life-threatening. injuries
2) the fire station might have been staffed by retained firemen, i.e. the station was not manned
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Re: Do your local police also do this

Had something similar yesterday, a 1 car incident the police shut just one 1lane for about an hour.
Don't really know why, didn't seem to be any ambulances attending. Most odd.
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There was a fatality on the M1 near Sheffield yesterday and both carriageways were shut.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/south_yorkshire/8149235.stm
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if that was one of your family in what appers to be single car crash wouldnt you want the police to close the road for the correct amount time to get all the evidence what happend if when the sun rose up an the police helicopter did it's areail pictures of the secene and they could see another car was involved at some point. i for one think the 10 hours starting from 2.30am was fair amount of time to close the road off.
what is it with car owners these days its not a great effoft to use a diffrent road its not as if your walking is it
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this sort of thing happens quite often here - road closures of a number of hours if someone has been badly or fatally injured - time to call in the experts and have everything analysed in minute detail - was an 11 hour closure 2 weeks back.
usually though its a closure of between an hour and 2 hours to clean up the mess etc BUT due to lack of alternative routes, as in they don't exist -- you get stuck for a while or take take a 60 plus mile detour that adds about 1.5 hours to your trip -- usually quicker to wait it out  Undecided
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@ASBO My post wasn't meant as criticism of the authorities in any way, simply as a statement of fact.
I completely understand the reasons for road closures under such circumstances.
Apologies if you took my post not as intended.
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It's always difficult for the Police to get it right.  Another thing that often causes more of the road to be closed than we would think necessary is if the air ambulance needs to land.  They often have to close a whole road to allow it to put down.  The air ambulance does an invaluable service and saves lives that otherwise would not be saved.  Pity they are not funded by central government and have to rely on donations to keep them in the air.
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Fortunately the Scottish Ambulance Service have had a centrally funded service for years. To my knowledge as we put some radios in their aircraft as far back as 1994. Without delving into the web - I don't know when it started - but as we only have the one national service - it could be some time before '94.
I presume they started it as it's cheaper than paying the RAF / RN / HMCG for their larger aircraft, which of course are still used after dark, and bad weather.
I totally agree that the NHS should fund an England and Wales air service as it would be cheaper than on a regional basis. After all the government pay for the police helicopters
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It costs £150,000 a month to keep an air ambulance flying.  All credit to the general public who give so generously to make this happen.
http://www.essexairambulance.uk.com/
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strat i did'nt even read ya post b4 posting.
i was replying to this one line
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MOTORISTS are calling for answers after a main road was closed for more than 10 hours following a single vehicle accident, which caused huge tailbacks and gridlocked roads.
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It is diabolical to suggest that "you find an alternative route"..... How do you get off a motorway, when the road is closed? NO U turns, NO driving back down the carriageway on the hard shoulder, NO reversing back to the earlier junction, BUT the POLICE who have closed the road completely NEVER think to close the ENTRY SLIPS prior to the accident area, and they DON`T Direct traffic OFF the motorway, prior to the accident area... They just let the traffic pile up for as far as possible. (27 miles is one I recall) NOR do they flag up ALTERNATIVE ROUTES.... they seem to enjoy the fact that people are stuck on the motorway for 10 hours, while they do their job.... Well some of them.. the majority are just walking around looking busy, in case the TV cameras on up in the hoveing helicopters.
WHY hasn`t the HIGHWAYS DEPARTMENT built these overhead sign gantries above the ENTRY SLIP ROADS, to close the motorway access?  WHY haven`t they also got advice for alternative routes, at the same point  e.g.  M6 CLOSED J12 TO J14 ACCIDENT, ALT ROUTE VIA A6 (or town names)
Not everyone has a satnav, Not everyone can read a map, and most people who use motorways haven`t a clue how to re-route themselves.
I have been very fortunate, and not been stuck on a motorway due to accident closure.... I have also been  fortunate enough to be able to spot trouble ahead, and get off the motorway in good time to pull into a safe area, and check my route, or already know alternative routes from memory
As regards the actual accident, it appears to me, that the police attitude is, let them suffer,(the poor people in the traffic jam) maybe they will think a bit more about the way they are driving. as a sort of punishment to all who just had the misfortune to travel on that stretch of road, at that particular time.
Air Ambulance, and NHS ambulance staff, of course, are generally well respected for their compassion and expertise in dealing with these traumatic situations, It would be nice if we managed to grant the police the same sort of respect for their efforts. unfortunately, they have an attitude problem, and take it out on the unfortunates who happen to be in the vicinity of the accident.
Until they realise that to close a road, just so they can "do their job" I doubt they will ever get the respect of the motoring public.
In the USA it would be unheard of to completely close a (motorway/freeway) for such a period of time...... I am sure with a little fore thought, and a lot of effort, they (the police/highways department) could at least open one lane to allow the traffic to thin out, (after closing the entry points as previous mentioned) 
Yes the recovey vehicles and clean up team need time and space to do their job, but again, planning and forethought should play a very important part, in opening the roadway as soon as possible.(even just one lane)
In conclusion, the police need to get their act together, on this problem, ..... it seems that everyone else involved in the aftermath have done so...... why can`t they?