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D-Day Remembered

A fantastic day in Portsmouth today as we commemorate the 75th anniversary of D-Day.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48531319

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umpo2MWBY30

Great performance as ever from the Red Arrows and the Dakotas taking off from Duxford to fly to France.

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Taking nothing away from those that gave their young lives for our today's, but let's not forget the massive sacrifice of the then Soviet Union, China and Poland.

Time for whole world to remember, not just our view of it

 

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Happened upon this long forgotten piece earlier and think it's quite apt here, and indeed in everything we do in life.

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Another day of tributes today over in France. Proud to be British!

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48536906

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@Minivanman wrote:

Taking nothing away from those that gave their young lives for our today's, but let's not forget the massive sacrifice of the then Soviet Union, China and Poland.

Time for whole world to remember, not just our view of it

 


The media coverage does/did seem to be very biased towards "US" as if WE ( the brits ) did it all by ourselves... and does not mention all those Americans and Canadians and others that ALSO took part and lost thousands of their men in the process.

 

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Remember those post war years in the school playground when it was we the British that beat the Gerry?

No mention made of the Americans or the Canadians, they were just a sideshow if that, and those pesky Russians what with it being the dawn of the Cold War and all were never in those comics we used to read or indeed, in those war movies we would watch. 

"Gott im Himmel!" @shutter those nasties would shout, as Tommy showed them who was boss.

Kids eh, but no excuse t'day, none at all.

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@Minivanman wrote:

Taking nothing away from those that gave their young lives for our today's, but let's not forget the massive sacrifice of the then Soviet Union, China and Poland.

Time for whole world to remember, not just our view of it

 


The media coverage does/did seem to be very biased towards "US" as if WE ( the brits ) did it all by ourselves... and does not mention all those Americans and Canadians and others that ALSO took part and lost thousands of their men in the process.

 


But it was Churchill was it not who sent a declartion to Hitler saying withdraw from Poland or we will be at war?

In other words Hitler started it, everyone else was happy to stand by until someone else (us) took the first step and actually did something.

Even then the USA didn't want to know, it was only Churchill offering to trade UK military outposts in other countrys in exchange for more ships that really got their attention and when the Nazis started sinking US ships they had no choice but to get involved.

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D-DAY, was not about "who started it all"....

  it was about who was going to "end it all"... and it was a combined effort. 

The media in UK  unceremoniously forgetting about the help we had  ( and needed ) from the Americans, Canadians, and other commonwealth armed forces, to achieve the end result.

 

The UK media should have taken note 

 

 

"LEST WE FORGET"... 

 

They obviously chose to forget...  .... Shame on them...

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Hitler certainly started it with us by trying to reclaim what he believed was German territory that had been torn from the Austro Hungarian Empire after Versaille, and as nasty an excuse for a human being that he was, the man had a point. Poland, over which we declared war against Germany, apart from being a land stich up between Germany and Russia, was an attempt to reunite those ethnic Germans across Prussia. It could also be argued he had an historical right to Czechoslovakia given that it did not even exist before 1918.

Have a gander at a pre WW1 map of Europe to have some idea of where he was coming from. 

If anybody started the war, it was Japan in 1931 with the subsequent tripartite alliance with Germany and Italy. We here in Britain of course did not go to war until nearly ten years later in 1939. Niether did the sinking of ships bring the US into the war, that 'only' brought in lend lease which as you sort of say cost us dear by having to hand over some of our colonies to them on one hundred year leases. We must go back to Japan and Pearl Harbour for the real reason they got involved and even then, it was Germany that declared war on America, and not the other way around. 

And why did Hitler turn on France we might ask? Well I guess we'll have to look at the Franco British Expeditionary Force (BEF) 1939/40 and the history books for an answer to that one. Thumbs_Up

 

     

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None of which would have mattered a jot had it not be for the Russians who stood alone in the east but again, we must take nothing away from the sacrfices made as those men stormed the beaches in Normandy.

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The Guardian. 05.06,19.

   

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The media coverage does/did seem to be very biased towards "US" as if WE ( the brits ) did it all by ourselves... and does not mention all those Americans and Canadians and others that ALSO took part and lost thousands of their men in the process.

 


The US and France are having separate ceremonies of their own today. Both Trump and Macron are there.

Some mention has been made of the numbers of casualties on D-Day. Estimates vary but it is commonly acknowledged that the Allied casualties were 10,000. A breakdown estimates 2700 were British, 6603 American and 946 Canadian.

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Reading earlier that Eisenhower expected to lose at least half of the estimated 160,000 troops that landed on that fateful day, so those that believe in such things can at least thank the Gods that the number of slaughtered and injured was not far far higher.

Terrible times, terrible cost all the same.

 

 

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If Britain had not held out against the worst that Germany could throw at us and had succumbed or signed a treaty with Hitler (  like a lot of our mealy mouthed cheese eating surrender monkey politicians at the time wanted )  and with Germany able to move its troops east because there was no threat from the west Russia would have fallen. In which case D day could never have happened. Britain and USA also captured north Africa and launched a second front through Italy which tied up German troops and resources that meant they  would not fight on Russian front,  the massive amount of equipment sent to Russia from UK also made a huge difference.

 

Britain was a giant, unsinkable aircraft carrier and marshalling yard / supply depot near enough to Europe to mount a surprise attack - later known as D day.