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Costs of heating water
Costs of heating water
22-03-2013 6:22 PM
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Is it a matter of the amount of electric power required to heat water, as opposed to gas and the amount of electricity is takes to pump the gas heated water through the system to the tank?
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22-03-2013 6:26 PM
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22-03-2013 6:29 PM
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A typical central heating pump equates to a small light bulb in electricity consumption, when running.
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22-03-2013 6:35 PM
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22-03-2013 6:56 PM
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I have a combi, very economical.
Quote from: NedLudd A combo gas boiler heats water on demand! No water storage present or required!
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22-03-2013 6:56 PM
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Average UK price per kWh for gas is 4.64p, Average price per kWh for (Standard) electricity is 15.32p (3.3 times the price of gas).
Heating with gas is actually a bit less efficient but normally nowhere near enough to compensate for the price difference between the two fuels.
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22-03-2013 6:59 PM
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When our previous boiler was condemned due to CO leak we were still able to get hot water.
Didn't notice a lot of difference in cost between heating water by gas boiler or electric.
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22-03-2013 7:00 PM
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You'll use roughly the same amount of energy to heat the water,
Based on my current tarrif, electricity costs about 21p per KWh, while gas costs 8p per KWh.
It takes about 8KWh to heat 40 gallons (US) from 15 to 60 degrees.
I leave the rest of the exercise to the reader!

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22-03-2013 7:06 PM
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Quote from: kmilburn on my current tarrif, electricity costs about 21p per KWh, while gas costs 8p per KWh.
Good grief! Where are you?
My gas is 4.4p and electricity 12.5p per kWh.

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22-03-2013 7:11 PM
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22-03-2013 7:37 PM
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22-03-2013 7:54 PM
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As a result I've largely reverted to bulbs that actually work as the savings seem to be "virtual" not real with low-energy ones.

Different logic for outside lighting and my most recent floodlight is indeed a 10W LED not a 100W linear halogen.

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22-03-2013 8:17 PM
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I recently replaced a 150W halogen with a 5.9W LED (covering a modest area at our front porch), the amount of light isn't that much less to be honest.
I don't mind paying for gas to offset the saving of indoor LEDs (I use 1.8 & 3W in many places though some are in 'multiple fitments').
If calculating the cost of heating water remember that a typical boiler is about 80% efficient* so add a bit to the cost per unit of gas, an immersion heater in an insulated tank can be taken as 100% efficient.
* An old boiler could be as low as 55 to 60% efficient, modern condensing boilers claim to be over 90% efficient but most do not achieve this rating when heating water to usable temperatures, so gas is usually significantly cheaper as a heating source (economy 7 overnight can be OK compared with an old gas boiler and oil/LPG is rather expensive so not always worthwhile).
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22-03-2013 9:22 PM
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Quote from: NedLudd A combo gas boiler heats water on demand! No water storage present or required!
I wish I had a combi boiler; I much prefer them.
Quote from: HPsauce You'd be surprised how little power is required to move things about compared to heating them up.
A typical central heating pump equates to a small light bulb in electricity consumption, when running.
Oh right. So I don't really need to worry about 'added electricty cost' when heating with gas. Thanks for that.
Quote from: kmilburn You'll use roughly the same amount of energy to heat the water,
Based on my current tarrif, electricity costs about 21p per KWh, while gas costs 8p per KWh.
It takes about 8KWh to heat 40 gallons (US) from 15 to 60 degrees.
So the energy loss (and excess cost to pump) whilst the heated water travels the pipes would be negligible and thus still make gas cheaper? I just wonder if that is factored into this idea that it takes roughly the same amount of energy either way.
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22-03-2013 9:24 PM
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Simples!

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