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British Yoof not worth our support

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British Yoof not worth our support

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/constructionandproperty/11535468/Welding-Whats-that-...
If this is the best that the British education system can produce, then welcome Poles, Romanians, Bulgarians etc. I need my pension paying and things fixed in my old age  Roll eyes
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Dredgers used in the construction industry?
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Looks like slightly suspect grammar in the article too (to me anyway):
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fewer than one in four understood that a dredging involves underwater digging

And what's with the graph that goes up to 150% on the y-axis??  Grin
Looks like some British Journalists may not be all that much better than some of our yoofs.  Grin
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that article is far more an indictment of just how far the British educations system slipped during the years of dilution under the last labour government than it is any sort of indication of how bad the British youngsters are,
I was utterly aghast when a young sparky (fully qualified) didn't isolate the negative rail in order to start work on a dc system because he didn't know the way electron flow worked in a dc circuit ...... the reason was he had been taught incorrectly at school and that misnomer wasn't corrected at any stage in his education after that ......
any number of people have never seen a "C.D.T." room in school as they were removed in favour of academic studies (and cost savings) during labours time in power as they focused purely on watered down academic subjects and stripped out everything else under the misapprehension that everyone could learn all they needed through purely theoretical studies ......
a problem that hasn't been fully rectified in the last 5 years but certainly strides have been made towards undoing the damage of the unmitigated disaster visited upon our young, I would far rather they didn't follow the labour ideal of we don't need to teach the dangerous manual subjects because there is always enough cheap eastern European labour to go round and instead funnelled the less academic minded people into manual trade training and got the home grown yooof working in those fields than continuing the poor decisions of the disastrous socialist ideal of everyone stuck dependant on state hand-outs or too rich to care about the lot of the paupers!
much better to have the party that cares about the workers and because of those policies looks after the employers as a happy side effect than the one that only cares about those on welfare and overtaxes the rest !
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Dredgers used in the construction industry?

Yes indeedy..... you need dredgers to clear the silt and loose stuff, before you put down the concrete foundations for bridges and docks....
Here in Portsmouth harbour... there are several dredgers at work... some are dredging up "shingle" from out in the outer solent area, to bring ashore to be washed and graded, and then used in the ..... oh yeah..... construction industry....
a few others are ensuring that the Navigation channels are kept deep enough for the new Cruise liners ( one arrived in Southampton this morning)... and also the new Aircraft carriers...
Dredging has probably taken place in the Dockyard, where these new carriers would be moored, and extra strength piling, installed, by..... oh yeah.... the construction industry.....
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Dredgers used in the construction industry?

Yes indeedy..... you need dredgers to clear the silt and loose stuff, before you put down the concrete foundations for bridges and docks....

My last job was in Saudi on a water cooled power station it had a large sea intake and outfall
My job was client's engineer on the cooling water pumps and the MSF desalination plant.
We had a dredger working for nine months IIRC
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So the teachers have been lax in advising their students on the breadth of job opportunities available. The jobs they failed to describe are a lot more lucrative than what can be had with a Desmond in media studies or sociology  Roll eyes
But what do the teachers know probably never done a real job in their lives. And I hear that they are pushing Labour to insist on only "qualified" teachers in the classroom. I would suggest the opposite, every effort should be made to get teachers with real life skills even if they don't have the teaching qualifications favoured by the unions  Angry
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Looks like slightly suspect grammar in the article too (to me anyway):
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fewer than one in four understood that a dredging involves underwater digging

And what's with the graph that goes up to 150% on the y-axis??  Grin
Looks like some British Journalists may not be all that much better than some of our yoofs.   Grin

+1 but it is a Tory paper so... Wink
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I noted during my (admittedly wartime) Secondary education, that the most effective teachers tended to be non Graduates. Many of those with degrees and, therefore, found their studies easy, could not appreciate that their students could posssibly have difficulty absorbing what they were being taught. There were some without this trait that were not afflicted.
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I blame the tories, specifically thatcher, round the country there used to be these things called "factories", "mills", "dockyards", "mines", and other jobs that required hands-on intelligence, but thatcher made sure that they went away because she hated manual labourers, because they were usually Labour (the old, pre-blair version) supporters and were often unionised telling the goofs in office "No, we won't stand for it" (I don't count BL though, they screwed themselves over!), now look what's happened, this country doesn't know how to make things from scratch... Huh
Still, who am I to complain? I only grew up in the screwed up, post-thatcher john major years where the choices of just-left-school careers were desk-piloting office jobs and mcdonalds lackeys... Grin
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@2cv
it was labour that signed the EEA treaty that required privatisation of all those nationally owned businesses, it was labour that closed all those businesses by changing business laws to  allow British companies to contract out the labour side of the business to overseas locations (previously it was illegal)
thatcher didn't actually close anything other than the mines which she decreed were a national asset and no thieving eurocommie was getting their hands on them, that thinking lead to her closing them 2 years earlier than she planned because of the strikes and the disruption it was causing, of course everyone and their dog was on strike during the 70's which lead to a lot of the businesses you mentioned closing through bankruptcy in the recession that triggered the strikes in the months before thatcher won the election, the closing of all those various industries you mention might of been actioned under thatcher but she wasn't the cause of them that was all down to labour just as they screwed the country to the to of the cliff and started shoving to see how far over it could go without breaking, labour laws were relaxed allowing bosses to earn more than 22x the lowest wage earner in the company, pensions were done away with, more parts of the state were privatised, agency systems were brought into the nhs the fire service the civil service the police service and the education sector, minimum wage laws were  brought in that lowered the average wage earned by £5/hr welfare was inflated past the point or average incomes encouraging more people onto state aid than ever before and a plethora of other stuff
with all those things (most just from the last parliament)  why would anyone with even half a brain want to vote for the lying backstabbing sack of shysters ?
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with all those things (most just from the last parliament)  why would anyone with even half a brain want to vote for the lying backstabbing sack of shysters ?


Which party are you referring to.... ?  Con ...Libs.... or.....Labs ?  ...... Just so we know....
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the labour party, sorry should of been clearer about it /
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why would anyone with even half a brain want to vote for the lying backstabbing sack of shysters ?

But you've just (pretty much) defined the word 'Politician' and they're the only ones up for election in most constituencies so who else could we vote for?

I really should qualify my views on politicians since I do understand that they are not all as bad as that, in fact I recently heard that its only 99% of politicians that give all the other 1% a bad name.
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given all the press reports of the last few years though it seems like the labour party is full of kiddy fiddlers and there sympathisers, they even tried to lower the age of consent in the UK to 13 a couple of times whilst they were in power (surprised it wasn't one of the multitude of back door laws passed through the cabinet to be honest) and now we here of yet another labour MP/pier that's escaping charges for being a disgusting piece of filth due to infirmity, what what else to expect from the party that's elected the last three leaders based on who can stab the rest in the back the quickest .....
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